If you use tight stops is negative slippage a big problem

[u0362565]

Hi all, if you rely on a tight stop to minimise losses is slippage a bigger issue.  And how big can slips be in pips/points?  The issue with guaranteed stops is the min stop is higher and it obviously costs you more but perhaps its worth it if slippage is common?

[nit2wynit]

Hi, I've not encountered many issues at all with slippage.  Sure it happens at times of huge volatility, so if you're Day Trading off the Bell, it's more likely to happen then.  Also, Too Tight of a Stop can get you out prematurely more often than not while Spread Betting as the Spread can be considerable and variable.  If I place a Stop it's usually 2x the Spread OR 2x the Spread below or above the SR lines.  However, this being said, it depends on your Strategy also.

In 18 months of Day Trading or chart analysis, I've encountered slippage once on an Uber Drop last year.

[eastside]

Depends on the instrument, for example Dow can move wildly anywhere around 50 points within few seconds especially around the open/close hours. Once i moved SL to +3.5 pts for breakeven but ended up with -2.5pts loss. now i add atleast 5pts extra for slippages.

[u0362565]

Ok thanks, my stop is at least 2x the spread but never much more than that.  Slightly different question but does the spread that applies when you open a trade then stick or if the spread then changes while your position is open this new spread applies to your open trade? If the latter that seems unfair.

[nit2wynit]

36 minutes ago, u0362565 said:

Ok thanks, my stop is at least 2x the spread but never much more than that.  Slightly different question but does the spread that applies when you open a trade then stick or if the spread then changes while your position is open this new spread applies to your open trade? If the latter that seems unfair.

It's a good question that I've not found and answer to.  I remember vaguely last year a stock went from 3 to 15pts spread!!!  It was a Bad Day.  As I was getting in and out of the trade, i was being stopped out immediately because of the fluctuation...

Edited September 11, 2020 by nit2wynit

[eastside]

i dont think spread is a component that sticks to every trade, that a new idea for me. the bid/ask at the time of closing will apply, unlucky if it widens like out of hours etc.

i don't think the big banks etc cares about fairness for us retailers in trading. looking at ways with their HFT and running stops and what not to reduce burden and fill their coffers in every possible way

[u0362565]

You're probably right eastside, its bound to not be in our favour

[goldenring]

hi,everybody, I had a very bad experience with slippage last month.  I was short on NOKSEK pair  and I was stoped out with a whooping 737 pips spread on Sunday late evening when the market opened. Usual spread on NOKSEK pair is 150 pips. I fully understand that in volatile times spread can go double, so in this case spread could become 300 pips; but I was not expecting spread to become almost five times that of a normal spread which is 150 pips.I suffered a big loss on this trade, I feel cheated and I feel as if  "IG"  was hunting for my STOP.

[u0362565]

Sounds harsh goldenring, I've never heard of such a big spread. How are you supposed to make any considerations for that.