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LONDON — The U.K. government could be poised to announced more Covid restrictions for England amid concerns over the spread of the omicron variant, according to a report in the Financial Times on Wednesday.

The paper, which cited three unnamed senior Whitehall officials, said the sources had told the newspaper that the government had decided to implement its so-called “Plan B” of increased restrictions, including vaccine passports for large venues and an order to work from home.

The new restrictions could be announced at a press conference as early as Wednesday with regulations laid before Parliament on Thursday, according to government insiders speaking to the paper.

Full story: CNBC

The emergence of a video in which staff are joking about the Christmas party, which Prime Minister Boris Johnson has insisted never took place, could further undermine public confidence in the government and adherence to Covid restrictions.

This is a breaking news story, please check for further updates. CNBC

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Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE said initial lab studies show a third dose of their Covid-19 vaccine neutralizes the omicron variant, results that will accelerate booster shot drives around the world. 

A booster with the current version of the vaccine raises antibodies 25-fold, providing a similar level as observed after two doses against the original virus and other variants, the companies said. So-called T-cells still provide protection against severe illness, they said.

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Full story: Bloomberg

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''Just a reminder to everyone.... The PCR test is an overamplified fraud designed to give false positives. Here Dr Fauci himself confirms any amplifications over 35 (UK uses 45) only finds non infectious viral debris! It's all a LIE... ALL OF IT! It's all a HOAX folks! ''  Truth&Freedom4 @Truth_Freedom3

 

 

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3 hours ago, Provaton said:

More misinformation: The ARR will always appear low as it depends on the event rate.

The deliberate deception is coming from Pfizer actually, see the math as used in this case.

'VIDEO: Covid Vaccines - Relative vs Absolute Efficacy. Did Pfizer oversell their product?

Date  Fri 03 December 2021 By  InProportion2 Tags vaccine / videos

''When Pfizer launched its vaccine they told the world that it had a relative efficacy of 95%. Some months later the Lancet pointed out that it had an absolute efficacy of only 0.84%. Both values were correct, but which was more informative?''

 

VIDEO: Covid Vaccines - Relative vs Absolute Efficacy. Did Pfizer oversell their product? - InProportion2 (talkigy.com)

 

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Johnson about to announce new restrictions - no real reason, just because.  

 

Meanwhile, remind me which disease was it the jabs were supposed to protect you from again?🤔🤔  

Latest UK data.  

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And;  

datatosee.com @dontbetyet  

10m  

Clearly the vaccine has rubbish efficacy in the elderly, yes the people most at risk. Governments solution? Vaccinate the YOUNG who are at little risk. Then add vaccine passports mainly used by the YOUNG to slow transmission in a jab that does not stop transmission. Clowns.

 

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9 hours ago, Provaton said:

More misinformation: The ARR will always appear low as it depends on the event rate.

“Let’s say a study enrolled 20,000 patients into the control group and 20,000 in the vaccine group. In that study, 200 people in the control group got sick and 0 people in the vaccine group got sick. Even though the vaccine efficacy would be a whopping 100%, the ARR would show that vaccines reduce the absolute risk by just 1% (200/20,000= 1%). For the ARR to increase to 20% in our example study with a vaccine with 100% efficacy, 4,000 of the 20,000 people in the control group would have to get sick (4,000/20,000= 20%).”

Please step back for a moment and think about what you are posting here and how if your "research" persuades just one person to not get the vaccine and they die, how would you feel then?

It might seem clever and amusing to you but it's not without consequences.

 

Not that I'm disputing the mathematics behind your hypothetical study, but at a fundamental level, if the event rate is low, then what is that inferring about the malignancy of the virus in the control group?

Extending that, if you want to talk about consequences, I would suggest that seeking to subject the entire population to a 'medicine' that has had little more than cursory exposure to the normal regulatory checks and procedures raises the potential for a consequence that goes far beyond individual calamity to global catastrophe. In some circumstances I could understand the need for such reckless abandon, but for covid (ADE induced variants or not), I would say it is sheer madness.

But maybe you are right. Maybe all the reports of sportsmen collapsing, cardiac problems, vaccine ADE, and all the rest of it is indeed nothing. But at the very least (especially given the scarcity of proper long term trials done on these vaccines) these reports should be thoroughly investigated as a potential red flag rather than just charge on regardless injecting everything in sight at an ever increasing frequency in the (vain) hope that these coronaviruses will magically disappear (not done so well this far has it, in fact the situation seems strangely akin to what was predicted by those vaccine ADE conspiracy nutters). And when I say investigated, I mean properly investigated, and if it is by the Pharma companies themselves, then insist that they display their faith in the safety of their own products, rather than allow them to hide behind governmental waivers of liability. 

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More countries are following Israel and the UK, their data showing negative vaccine efficacy (the vaccines are killing more than they are supposedly saving).

More countries are showing increased excess mortality this year than last, the year of covid vs the year of the vaccines.

Pfizer jubilant about the 1 less death in the vaxxed group of the 40,000 person study have not yet noticed the vaxxed group has 4 x more deaths from heart attacks, do you think someone should tell them? (see video on relative risk posted yesterday)

Looking specifically at covid, in the latest UK data, compare the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed and the ratio in cases, hospitalisations and deaths. The vaccines seem to be doing nothing at all. (see UKHSA data chart posted yesterday)

So what response from govts? Why more vaccinations of course, every 3 months why not. And mandates and forced jabs if necessary. Every time they are proved wrong the WEF political representatives (Biden, Johnson, Ursula von der Leyen etc) have always doubled down. Start a witch hunt, use the bought msm to bomb the serfs with fake news it's the unvaxxed in the hospitals, drum up the mass psychosis.

 

Meanwhile the US govt's FDA has gone to court to have the drug company's vaccine data locked away until 2055. Think about that for a minute. The FDA - not the drug companies, the drug companies don't care, the drug companies have total indemnity, the drug companies have already walked away with all the money.

When the govts signed the vaccine contracts they took on all liability, now they want all the files suppressed. The judge said no, you will drip feed them slowly to the public. The first batch came out and guess what, important data has been redacted. The govt really really really does not want you to see those files. 

 

Reminder that at it's worst, of those who caught covid and had actual symptoms 90% were described as 'mild' and less than 1% died, the far majority being elderly with at least 3 comorbidities (similar data as the flu). Also note that all through 2020 they were not actually being treated with anything because we were all told we had to wait for the vaccines. 🙄

 

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Ha ha, are people really that stupid ??;

Aaron Ginn @aginnt

The new Prime Minister of Austria argues that lockdowns will continue and people must get vaccinated or go to jail as he stands behind a plexiglass barrier to prevent an airborne disease. SCIENCE!  

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or, even better;

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Meanwhile;  

Allison Pearson  @AllisonPearson  

The NHS is “under overwhelming pressure” (caused by all the restrictions from the time before). Never mind, let’s have new rules that mean patients don’t get seen in person and add to the 47,000 poor souls who aren’t aware they’re dying of cancer.  

 

Allison Pearson  @AllisonPearson  

COVID only occupying 4% of all hospital beds in England. Whitty is lying.

 

'The vaccines do not stop infections or transmissions (or hospitalisations or deaths) so err..  ,  get vaccinated!!!!'

 

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LONDON — The rise of omicron Covid cases in the U.K. is on such steep trajectory that the country has been told to brace for one million cases by the end of the month.

The UK Health Security Agency said Wednesday that omicron is displaying a significant growth advantage over the delta variant, “meaning that it is likely to outcompete delta in the U.K. and become the dominant variant.”

COVID: Germany confirms first 2 cases of omicron variant | News | DW |  27.11.2021

Full article: CNBC

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WHO's advisory panel outlines recommendations for boosters.

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GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization's (WHO) vaccine advisory panel recommends that people who are immunocompromised or received an inactivated vaccine should receive a booster dose of a COVID-19 shot, the head of the panel said on Thursday.

The recommendation comes after the Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE) on immunisation held a meeting on Tuesday to evaluate the need for COVID-19 boosters.

For full article: investing.com

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FEAR IS PUSHED HIGH!

CONFLICTING REPORTS FROM VARIOUS SOURCES.

VESTED INTEREST GROUPS (MEDICAL & PHARMA VIA THEIR OTHER SOURCES)

ADVICE BOOSTERS.

THE NEW VARIANT IS ALARMING, IT WILL REACH A MILLION!

HOLD ON, DID WE NOT HAVE HYPE AND FEAR BUILT UP FOR BREXIT?

NOW REPLACE BREXIT WITH COVID. YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN.

ANSWER:

HAVE PROPER PROTOCOLS ENFORCED IF IT IS TRULY A CONCERN, I.E WEAR MASKS, DISTANCING IN AND KEEP THE HOMES, COMPANIES AND PUBLIC PLACES CLEANED DAILY WITH THE MOST EFFECTIVE DISINFECTANTS. AND KEEP THE WORKFORCE WORKING AND THE ECONOMY RUNNING IS SHOULD BE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.

COMPANIES CAN PAY FOR THEIR COSTS OF HANDLING COVID PROTOCOLS, BUT AT LEAST BUSINESS KEEPS RUNNING.

LET INDIVIDUALS DECIDE IF THEY LIKE A BOOSTER (NO ENFORCEMENT). IF THEY DO NOT THEN THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR LIFE.

The best type of disinfectants is shown at :     https://www.decon7.com/

HOW COME THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT ADVISED ON THAT. IT IS KNOWN BY THE MILITARY AD THEY HELPED CREATE THE BEST FORM THERE IS TO DEFEAT ANY eliminate the toughest microorganisms? WHO IS SUPPRESSING THE KNOW-HOW OF THIS VITAL TECHNOLOGY?

 

 

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6 hours ago, Caseynotes said:

Meanwhile the US govt's FDA has gone to court to have the drug company's vaccine data locked away until 2055. Think about that for a minute. The FDA - not the drug companies, the drug companies don't care, the drug companies have total indemnity, the drug companies have already walked away with all the money.

When the govts signed the vaccine contracts they took on all liability, now they want all the files suppressed. The judge said no, you will drip feed them slowly to the public. The first batch came out and guess what, important data has been redacted. The govt really really really does not want you to see those files. 

 

Ha ha,  see what I mean, the govt really really don't want you to see the Pfizer vaccine data.

 

Chuck Callesto @ChuckCallesto

BREAKING REPORT: FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years to FULLY RELEASE Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data... Worldwide Life expectancy BOTH SEXES COMBINED is 73.2 years...

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Omicron could be the vaxx'd last best chance to get proper immunity. Increasing looking like Omicron is highly transmissible but far less severe than previous dominant strains which is natural viral evolution. But due to vaccine pressure nature is likely to throw up a rouge strain that will be far more deadly any time so the vaxx'd are better off catching Omicron than anything else and given that the vax doesn't stop infection at all they're likely to.

There can't be too many now who haven't realised the so called vaccines offer no protection so focus is now turning to Hybrid immunity (recovered from infection after or before vax).

The article below looks at the infection rates for the 3 categories; recovered unvaxxed, vaxxed, and hybrids.

The piece is actual looking at the usual foul play by science with an agenda in shifting the time frames to pretend hybrids are better than unvaxxed, which it's not.

In B we can see the useless vax and booster compared with A - the recovered unvaxxed. But C - the hybrids are made to appear best of all

But look closer at how the time frames have been shifted and shortened to disadvantage the A chart.

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graphical deception (and a smoking gun for OAS?) (substack.com)

 

Reminder that natural immunity is based on the immune system recognising the whole virus cell not just the spike protein section as does the antibodies produced by the vaccines, so evolutionary changes to the spike protein do not fool the natural immune system.

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     "US govt's FDA has gone to court to have the drug company's vaccine data locked away until 2055. "

    "There can't be too many now who haven't realised the so called vaccines offer no protection so focus is now turning to Hybrid immunity (recovered from infection after or before vax). "

Caseynotes, you are providing interesting facts.

    The underlying pointer from all the above substantiated charts and data indicate how THE TRUE DATA IS SUPPRESSED OR MISS-INFORMED TO OTHER SPECIALISTS AND PARTICULARLY THE PUBLIC.

    BEHIND THE SCENES (FOR US, THE PUBLIC) VESTED INTEREST INFLUENCES AND MANEUVERING  CASTS A DARK SHADOW OF CORRUPT PRACTICES.

GREED AND SELF-INTERESTS KNOWS NO BOUNDS.

    WORSE, HOW GOVERNMENTS (PARTICULARLY THE PERMANENT FACELESS CIVIL SERVANTS ) EITHER PLAY ALONG WITH THIS AND FALL VICTIM TO IT.

    HAVE GOVERNMENTS BECOME PUPPETS IN THE SYSTEM OF CRONYISM AND LINKS? WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE .....?

    THE USA's FOUNDING FATHERS CHARTER ON THE BILL OF RIGHTS HAS UNDERGONE MUCH LATER COUNTER-ALTERATIONS AND SUPPRESSION OF THE ORIGINAL RIGHTS FOR MAINTAINING A JUST AND EQUITABLE SOCIETY.

    IT IS ODD HOW FOREIGN AGENCIES CAN KNOW MORE ABOUT OUR WESTERN GOVERNMENTS HIDDEN INTENTS & SUPPRESSION OF INFORMATION FROM THESE PUBLIC THAN THE VERY PUBLIC THE GOVERNMENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE AND INFORM WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

AND EXAMPLE OF THE UK:

    SIR CHRISTOPHER FOSTER'S BOOK ON “BRITISH GOVERNMENT IN CRISIS” PUBLISHED IN 2005 TELLS THE TALE OF THE DEMISE OF GOVERNMENT. HE WAS AN INFLUENTIAL FIGURE AS A TREASURY ECONOMIST FOR, 4-DECADES IN GOVERNMENT. THERE ARE SEVERAL SIMILAR BOOKS BY OTHERS. EVEN MARGRET THATCHER HAD AN INVESTIGATION FOR CHANGE IN THE RUNNING OF THE CIVIL SERVICE, BUT THAT WAS LATER BLOCKED BY THE CIVIL SERVICE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

ONCE AGAIN, GREED AND SELF-INTERESTS KNOWS NO BOUNDS.

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DUFF PRODUCT

    SERIOUSLY, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK OF BEING FORCED (IN SOME COUNTRIES) AND COAXED NICELY OR FEARFULLY WITH PR TO PERSUADE YOU TO GET A PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT FUNCTION WELL OR POORLY ?

    NOW YOU GET TOLD YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NEW BOOSTER PRODUCT BECAUSE IT IS NEEDED OR ALL HELL WILL OCCUR IN THE LAND.  FEAR RULES. YOU ARE SOLD. YOU CANNOT DECIDE TO YOURSELF AS A CHOICE IN-EFFECT.

    BUT NOW YOU THINK, HOLD ON: DID WE NOT GET TOLD THE FIRST PRODUCT WILL HANDLE IT PLUS A BOOSTER, AND THAT BE BE IT.  AND THE CHINESE CAUSED IT TO START WITH, AS THE PREVIOUS 4 TO 6 OTHER PANDEMICS (SARS, 1 & 2, ETC...) THEY WERE NOT PEANLISED OR FINED.

    NOW IMAGINE THE GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC IS MADE TERRIFIED  (pushed by the PR FROM the media via the pharma sources).                                                                   ALL ARE TOLD THAT AS AN EMERGENCY WAIVER WILL BE GIVEN BY GOVERNMENT TO ALL PHARMA COMPANIES AND THAT ANY AND ALL ADVERSE REACTIONS OR SIDE EFFECTS PEOPLE GET CANNOT BE BLAMED ON THE MAKERS -- THEY CANNOT BE SUED AND YOU CANNOT BE COMPENSATED FOR ANY ILL EFFECTS. THERE MAY BE SOME FATALITIES, I.E. DEATH FROM THIS BUT HEY, THIS THIS THE "PRICE" YOU PAY FOR "THE SOLUTION".

    PHARMAS RESERVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE SHORT CUTS, WITH NO USUAL MAJOR PHASE TRIALS AND NO LONG TERM AFTER EFFECTS OBSERVATIONS. NO, NEW METHOD IS USED, FIRST TIME EVER. GOVERNMENTS WILL FINANCE ALL, IN BILLIONS IF NOT TRILLIONS. 

GOVERNMENTS ARE BOUGHT LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL.

pharmas pay nothing to make and sell off these drugs. THE PUBLIC ENDS UP PAYING ALL THE TRILLIONS IN COST.

    DID ANYONE THING ABOUT ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS OR ALTERNATE TO USE , OR TO USE IN ADDITION WITH THE VAX?

    DECON7.COM SHOWS A GREAT SOLUTION THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN BUSINESSES, BUT DID THEY TAKE THAT INTO CONDENSATION? NO. AND WHILE WE AT IT, HOW COME NONE OF THE MEDIA EVER LOOKED FOR ALTERNATIVES OR PROMOTE THOSE?

    PAST ENDEMICS SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT GOVERNMENTS SOMETHING FROM THE PAST AND BE PREPARED TO HANDLE ANY FUTURE EVENTS. BUT NO, THEY REACT INSTEAD OF BEING PROACTIVE IN A BALANCED WAY AND GET PRIVATE COMPANIES TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY, INCLUDING THE FINANCIAL PART.

    WELCOME TO THE MODERN FINANCIAL GULAG SYSTEM  -- The Gulag is recognized as a major instrument of political repression in the Soviet Union. The camps housed a wide range of convicts. The purpose of the gulags was mainly economic and political, rather that striving for the elimination of supposedly inferior races like the concentration camps tried to achieve.

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To all the doubters in here.  You have no idea how small the world is politically or economically.

Take a look at this vid and tell me it's all real!

The Plan to Blow up the system and enforce Universal mRNA vaccines.  the 1st link is an excerpt, the YT link is the full Doc.  October 2019.
 

https://newsrescue.com/explosive-video-fauci-hhs-in-2019-plotting-disruptive-new-outbreak-in-china-somewhere-to-blow-the-system-up-and-enforce-universal-mrna-vaccination/

 

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I get repeated requests by email and on other forums for info on protocols for vaccine adverse affects so I'll link here as well.

(I wouldn't know if I get any on this forum as my notifications are spammed to the point of being unusable)

The most important treatment is the anticoagulant aspirin to combat the systemic micro clotting and the increased risk of larger clots forming in lungs, brain and heart.

OTC Medicines & Nutraceuticals to Prevent/Reduce COVID Post-Vaccination Side Effects | Early COVID Care Experts

 

Also a repeat link post on covid protocols, prophylactic, early treatments, OTC meds etc:

C19Protocols – Reducing Risk of COVID-19 Infection and Severity

 

I notice the NHS are still repeating the lie of asymptomatic spread in TV advertising. They say 1 in 3 covid positive are somehow able to spread the virus without actually being able to produce any viral load.

Prof Norman Fenton on the false claim and a look at the false positives of the PCR test that drives the covid farce.

 

 

 

 

And a new video of Dr Peter McCullough on 5 important points to end this covid farce. Very important section at the end outlining early simple but effective covid treatments.

The video is 45 minutes but McCullough's presentation is the first 20 minutes.

 

 Peter McCullough covers the 5 key points to end the pandemic. (rumble.com)

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''This data from U.K.HSA says to me that ICU cannot be full of unvaxed Covid patients.''

 Renee Hoenderkamp  @DrHoenderkamp

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New disconnect between South African covid cases and deaths from late November.

Prof Francois Balloux  @BallouxFrancois

7h

Daily covid cases (grey) and daily deaths (red) in South Africa since March 2020. The data is shown in log10 scale, smoothed and 'unlagged' (i.e. cases and deaths reported on the same day).

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'' to all those who were jabbed but now want their innate immune system to revert to ‘virgin’ status. Now is the time to do it! Why and how?''

''Omicron will soon dominate the scene. As it is poorly (or not at all) recognized by S(pike)-directed antibodies (Abs) that are either induced by the current C-19 vaccines (containing Wuhan’s S protein) or by short-lived anti-S Abs of low affinity that result from previous asymptomatic/ mild infection with the Delta variant, your valuable innate Abs capable of handling ALL SARS-CoV-2 variants will now be set free!''

Like a virgin...untouched forever! | Voice for Science and Solidarity

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Two-dose vaccines induce lower antibodies against Omicron, study finds

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(Reuters) -Two-dose COVID-19 vaccine regimens do not induce enough neutralising antibodies against the Omicron coronavirus variant, British scientists found, indicating that increased infections in those previously infected or vaccinated may be likely.

Researchers from the University of Oxford published results on Monday from a study yet to be peer-reviewed, where they analysed blood samples from participants who were given doses from AstraZeneca-Oxford or Pfizer-BioNTech in a large study looking into mixing of vaccines.

The results come a day after British Prime Minister Boris Johnson warned that two shots will not be enough to contain Omicron, following findings from the UK health agency last week that boosters significantly restore protection against the variant.

 

The Oxford study said that there was no evidence yet that the lower level of infection-fighting antibodies against Omicron could lead to higher risk of severe disease, hospitalisation or death in those who have got two doses of approved vaccines.

"These data are important but are only one part of the picture. They only look at neutralising antibodies after the second dose, but do not tell us about cellular immunity, and this will also be tested," said Matthew Snape, Oxford professor and co-author of the paper.

 

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Covid booster shots are “optimal care” as the deadly virus continues to mutate and spread, but the U.S. government is staying firm for the time being on the definition of fully vaccinated, top U.S. infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday.

Currently, two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna vaccines or one dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine provide full vaccination. Health officials will continue to evaluate whether that definition needs to change, Fauci said on ABC’s “This Week With George Stephanopoulos.”

 

“I think if you look at the data, the more and more it becomes clear that if you want to be optimally protected you really should get a booster,” Fauci said. “It’s the optimal care.”

The push for booster shots comes in tandem with the rise in cases of the omicron coronavirus variant. Twenty-five states so far have detected the variant, Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in a Friday briefing. Officials expect that number to continue to rise.

It’s still too early to tell what the long-term impacts of the virus are, but early data suggests those who contract the omicron variant experience mild illness. Vulnerable patients who are older, unvaccinated or have underlying conditions have a much higher risk of developing severe disease, Maria Van Kerkhove, the World Health Organization’s technical lead on Covid-19, said in a press briefing.

As of Sunday, the U.S. was approaching 800,000 coronavirus-related deaths.

The new variant has pushed some government officials to reinstate health restrictions to slow the spread. On Monday, New York will implement its statewide mask mandate, which requires protective face coverings to be worn in public places and businesses, unless proof of vaccination is required.

“This variant moves fast, we have to move faster,” New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

 

By CNBC

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''Minimal cross-over between mutations associated with Omicron variant of SARS-CoV-2 and CD8+ T cell epitopes identified in COVID-19 convalescent individuals''

“These data suggest that virtually all individuals with existing anti-SARS-CoV-2 CD8+ T-cell responses should recognize the Omicron VOC, and that SARS-CoV-2 has not evolved extensive T-cell escape mutations at this time.”

Minimal cross-over between mutations associated with Omicron variant of SARS-CoV-2 and CD8+ T cell epitopes identified in COVID-19 convalescent individuals | bioRxiv

 

 

05 Dec 2021

'Israel study says natural immunity is 6 times better than vaccine.'

MS_0 Protection MedArxiv (medrxiv.org)

 

 

BMJ 03 Dec 2021

''However, there is considerable uncertainty about the effectiveness of the covid vaccines, some serious short-term complications and a lack of data on long-term harms.'' 

''More alarmingly, third and fourth ‘booster’ shots have not been tested in any randomised trials, and other data on the efficacy and safety of administering further doses are scanty.''

 "For young age groups, in whom C19-related morbidity & mortality is low, & for those who have had C19 infection already, & appear to have longstanding immunological memory, the harms of taking a are almost certain to outweigh the benefits to the individual"

Evidence does not justify mandatory vaccines - everyone should have the right to informed choice | The BMJ

 

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3 minutes ago, nit2wynit said:

It's Winter.

50 thousand people died in December 2018 from Flu or Pn related disease in the UK alone.

England & Wales deaths involving Influenza and Pneumonia were 29,516 for the WHOLE of 2018, so it can't be 50,000 just for December.

Also, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, should we just ignore one cause of death as 29k people died from something else a few years ago?

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/influenzadeathsin20182019and2020

 

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4 hours ago, Provaton said:

England & Wales deaths involving Influenza and Pneumonia were 29,516 for the WHOLE of 2018, so it can't be 50,000 just for December.

That ONS data is false (and not for the first time), don't know about Dec 2018 but see below for January 2018 (64,000 deaths) in the pandemic of 2017/18. Not sure about December 2017 but may well have been 50,000.

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Winter excess deaths are always collated as the winter season ??/?? and not as year start to end. 

See the weekly deaths below.

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