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6 minutes ago, dmedin said:

rentiers

You mean landlords specifically or just non workers like, oh I don't know, pensioners?

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15 minutes ago, Mercury said:

You mean landlords specifically or just non workers like, oh I don't know, pensioners?

 

I don't believe that pensioners should have to live off savings.  They should get a pension from the state (or better, from their employers) that allows them to live in dignity. 

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11 minutes ago, dmedin said:

or better, from their employers) that allows them to live in dignity.

But the pension is paid for by assets in the fund so same same...  Still not seeing the point of your original post.

Rentiers like investors or, oh I don't know, Traders?

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40 minutes ago, Mercury said:

But the pension is paid for by assets in the fund so same same...  Still not seeing the point of your original post.

Rentiers like investors or, oh I don't know, Traders?

 

A rentier, you know, someone who lives off high interest rates or landed property.  They extract money by virtue of having money, and prevent money being used for productive things.

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2 minutes ago, dmedin said:

A rentier, you know, someone who lives off high interest rates or landed property.  They extract money by virtue of having money, and prevent money being used for productive things

Sounds like the Fed... 😝

Although your use of the phrase High interest rates is pejorative, surely it is just interest...  Been the case since the dawn of money anyway, high or not, so what are you advocating exactly?

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6 minutes ago, Mercury said:

Sounds like the Fed... 😝

Although your use of the phrase High interest rates is pejorative, surely it is just interest...  Been the case since the dawn of money anyway, high or not, so what are you advocating exactly?

 

Free and easy money.  The worst thing is people having nothing to do, buildings being empty, machinery unused, and everyone feeling miserable.

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16 minutes ago, dmedin said:

Free and easy money.  The worst thing is people having nothing to do, buildings being empty, machinery unused, and everyone feeling miserable.

On that at least we can agree.  And the new economy titans in the shape of Suckerberg (sic) thinks paying everyone basic is a good idea...  Just so he can hold on to his!

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So UK wages are back at pre "crisis" (ha they will run out of superlatives for the coming storm!) levels.  And yet retail is struggling and no one can afford to buy a home.  HSBC are the latest mega firm to announce job cuts, I wonder if it has anything to do with rising wages...  Of just the fact that banks can't make any money within a ZIRP/NIRP environment...  Coronavirus is the blame du jour for missing targets and while the world is going to hell in a handcart a property firm is telling it's staff that they cannot expense meat in meals.  Never mind the meek inheriting the Earth now it is the vegans..  "Head of values team"?  No wonder these firms can't make any profit!  The world has officially gone mad, sell everything!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51543521

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51499776

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51529207

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We have a podcast our IG channel on 'PODCAST: Have markets shaken off recession?' Dhaval Joshi from BCA Research and Jeremy Naylor discuss the recent bounce-back from the mid-March lows.

 

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1 hour ago, CharlotteIG said:

Have markets shaken off recession

Doesn't look like it ... sell in May 😢

 

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The UK is officially in recession, and the slump in the first six months of the year is worse than most of its peers. However, the monthly data already shows that the worst is behind us for the economy. GDP numbers for June show a strong bounce in activity as the economy emerged from lockdown.

 

 

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6 hours ago, CharlotteIG said:

the worst is behind us for the economy

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The pain and suffering could be just starting for millions of people.

Although key sectors such as housing have begun to show signs of a rebound, analysts have warned that the mini-boom could go bust once the government’s jobs subsidy programme closes in less than three months’ time and a tax cut expires at the end of March.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-stocks/ex-dividend-trading-trips-ftse-100-national-express-tumbles-idUKKCN2590T8

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