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oh, turns out the govt are just making this s*** up as they go along, who could have guessed it 🤷‍♀️

''Police in the UK have admitted that they have no legal authority to enforce a travel ban in and out of London and the South East after the government instituted a third lockdown, cancelling Christmas for millions of people.''

Paul Joseph Watson  @PrisonPlanet

 

Meanwhile the govt caught lying about the sacking/resigning of Neil Ferguson, he's still an advisor for SAGE.

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Second Coming of Imperial's Bonking Boffin - **** Fawkes (order-order.com)

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And finally people are getting very angry at the never ending incompetence and the destruction caused.

 

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Still can't quite work out why we are deliberately destroying the economies of every first world nation because of this flu virus. Yesterday I went shopping at the local mega supermarket where the she

I  follow this page and I saw how Spain became from a nice yellowish spot to a complete red warning place. Mainly because of the great number of tourists that went there in summer. https://www.ec

And so we gently slip from farce into a surreal dystopia ... ''A ‘new variant’ which was known about in September and no evidence it is any more infectious than older strains. The govt lest we fo

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Map of countries currently banning flights from the UK updated as of 16:20.

Haha,  I bet you thought Johnson and co. could make things any worse.

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Meanwhile, chart of latest all-cause deaths up to Dec 2nd.

No 2nd spike, total deaths within normal thresholds.

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Haha  Johnson presser, now, apparently, the risk of transmission of the new Covid variant is actually very low FFS.

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''What did Matt Hancock imagine would happen when he said the virus was “out of control”? The blockade on Britain is yet another example of how the government has turned a serious health crisis into an all-consuming catastrophe''

https://t.co/jY0z3dY5qt

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''If you didn't know this was gonna happen months ago, think about why not.''  (12 Virgils @neandertalboy)

''Here we go. We keep you locked down until you take the jab. Matt Hancock suggests Tier 4 here until vaccine 'rolled out' https://t.co/pVlGWIBySo  (Neil Clark  @NeilClark66)

'Well we’ve really got to get this under control. And the cases in the Tier 4 areas, as you’ve seen from the graphs that have been presented, have absolutely rocketed in the last few days, the last two weeks or so. And so we’ve got a long way to go to sort this. Essentially, we’ve got to get that vaccine rolled out to keep people safe… I think that given how much faster this new variant spreads, it is going to be very difficult to keep it under control until we have the vaccine rolled out.’ (Handcock)

 

Can you see what's coming yet? Control of the variant totally dependant on the vaccine now (apparently), but for the vaccine to give herd immunity must have at least 60% take up, that's not going to happen voluntarily, so the govt will have to declare mandatory vaccination is the only way --- to SAVE LIVES!!!!!!!!!!

FOR A DISEASE THAT HAS A 99.97% SURVIVAL RATE (same as common Flu).

So, endless lies to stoke the fear, endless testing (with a test giving a deliberately high ratio of false positives), mandatory jabs with whatever, whenever, and the constant threat of being sent into lockdown for any hint of disobedience. Your future, get use to it.

Meanwhile, here's a short vid on 6 parenting virtues;

 

 

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Just seen this go through, relates to the above post.

''This is 1984. WHO changes definition of herd immunity. 2019 definition and 2020 definition. Spot the difference...  ''   Simon Dolan #KBF @simondolan  50m

WHO goes complete DOUBLETHINK on herd immunity definition. Complete and utter BS.

YOU ARE BEING PLAYED.

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Next from the WHO will be 'War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength'.

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London and the South East Monthly Regional Deaths Against Average (remember that the mutant was identified in September)

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Adam Chamberlain @AdamFixIt

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London and the South East at seasonal average deaths. ONS data released this morning. Come on people, spot the pandemic! No second wave, no impact of "Mutant Virus".

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9 minutes ago, Provaton said:

The UK case mortality rate is 3.3%, so a survival rate of 96.7% not 99.97%, a huge difference:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

The problem you've got is that the UK data is not those who died of covid but with covid and the numbers are based on a PCR test with a provable false positive rate of at least 84%.

The German figures are so low as compared to the UK because they only count those who actually died of  covid as covid deaths.

The same problem exists in the US data with regards testing but I would still refer to the US govt's own stats that are published by the CDC.

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Another great chart, NHS bed occupancy London over the last 3 months showing steady increase in Covid cases, just 1 snag, the overall occupancy rate remains unchanged.

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This is absolutely fundamental to how decisions should be being made. As the number of beds occupied by patients labelled with COVID increases the number occupied by non-COVID patients falls. Exactly what would be seen if this was a misdiagnosis.

Dr Clare Craig @ClareCraigPath  2d

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new data out comparing California (lockdowns, masks etc) and Florida (none).

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You might be able to hide data, fudge the numbers, mess with the statistics, etc. But it's far harder to hide bodies in hospitals; if Florida was doing all those things, it would be reflected in the hospitalizations.

Dre @VashSky

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oh,

Spanish antibody testing has failed to confirm COVID in 87% of their hospitalised patients and even 53% of their ICU COVID patients. Looks like Spain is in a false positive pseudo-epidemic.

Dr Clare Craig @ClareCraigPath

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During the '2nd wave' 87% of those fast covid admission/discharge (<7 days) showed NO IgG, never were covid infected. EIGHTY SEVEN per hundred of those in the hosp lists is fake. 56% of long hospitalisation weren't infected either. Even 53% of supposed covid ICUs is false.

plaforscience @plaforscience

 

Meanwhile France drafts laws for a public transport ban for anti-vaxxers.

Anti-vaxxers could face public transport ban in France | World | Malay Mail

 

And the UK gets going with freedom passports.

Firms start work on 'freedom passports' | Daily Mail Online

 

Probably all just a conspiracy theory.

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10 hours ago, Caseynotes said:

During the '2nd wave' 87% of those fast covid admission/discharge (<7 days) showed NO IgG, never were covid infected. EIGHTY SEVEN per hundred of those in the hosp lists is fake. 56% of long hospitalisation weren't infected either. Even 53% of supposed covid ICUs is false.

Worth just looking at this in context to the recent CDC recommendation (posted above Dec 12th) to perform the Antigen swab test first before applying the PCR test due to the reported high prevalence of false positives given by the PCR alone.

 

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And when the Antigen test was applied in these Spanish hospitals 87% of the PCR positives were found to be false which is very much in line with the recent study (linked in a recent post above Dec 18th) that found 84% PCR false positives.

Given that these were patients in hospital with flu like symptoms it would seem that if not Covid then they were suffering from influenza, such a high level of misdiagnosis would also explain the high correlation of death rates of Covid and common flu.

Meanwhile of course the govt is doing everything possible to destroy our society and the economy with continuous rolling lockdowns as we chase the seasonal flu virus around the country, this looks like becoming an annual event.

October deaths showed a difference of just 8 between 2019 and 2020 so not really much of a pandemic, I wonder what this whole farce is really all about.

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As usual, and the reason I started this thread back in March, nothing we are being told adds up.

Weekly respiratory deaths mid Oct to the end of November, 2019 vs 2020.

 

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More than suspicious. It’s downright impossible for there to be, as claimed, a pandemic of a Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) virus ‘ripping through the country’, yet to have far fewer deaths with the clinical picture you’d expect from a SARS virus: respiratory symptoms.

Yardley Yeadon @MichaelYeadon3

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ICU's typically run at around 80% capacity increasing with seasonal 'winter pressures'.

Actual data for London shows 15% unoccupied and just 14% occupied by covid patents (but of course 84% of those 14% are actually covid false positives).

From Dec 21st.

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Nationally;

General ward occupancy is “light for time of year”. ICU beds fuller than usual but the reason is doing electives, lost earlier in year. Even with that, at 94% base capacity. Measured vs total incl surge capacity, 72%. It’s not true that “hospitals are about to be overwhelmed”.

Yardley Yeadon @MichaelYeadon3   From12h ago

(elective surgery trying to clear the massive backlog caused by the first shutdown)

 

Meanwhile the the NHS can't be too concerned as the London Nightingale Hospital has not just closed but is GONE.

 

so rather than anecdotal I think I'll stick with actual data, eg this from the ONS on actual deaths which covers Sept when the UK zombie mutant was identified, Oct when the clown show predicted the second wave spike, and Nov when they were demanding everyone go back into hiding.

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So, looking forward to more of this ...

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2 hours ago, Provaton said:

This is worth a read, from an intensive care doctor in London:

 

It may be worth a read but if you look at bed availability, using data supplied by the NHS themselves, the argument has no standing. And IIRC the total number of beds available this year is less than previous years.

I choose to believe published NHS data over an unproven tweet. With respect. 

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4 hours ago, Navarone said:

It may be worth a read but if you look at bed availability, using data supplied by the NHS themselves, the argument has no standing. And IIRC the total number of beds available this year is less than previous years.

I choose to believe published NHS data over an unproven tweet. With respect. 

Hi Navarone, you can't come to this thread with reliable data and proven NHS facts. Mr Casey has been sending memes and ultra-conservative tweets for over 2 months. That was hard work and can't be smashed in a single post. He now will reply with another 20 memes and dodgy screenshots to argue your point.  

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18 hours ago, jlz said:

Hi Navarone, you can't come to this thread with reliable data and proven NHS facts. Mr Casey has been sending memes and ultra-conservative tweets for over 2 months. That was hard work and can't be smashed in a single post. He now will reply with another 20 memes and dodgy screenshots to argue your point.  

haha oh dear, not much of the data reproduced here over the last 9 months hasn't been govt data, be it ONS, NHS, PHE, or the US CDC and Fauci's NIAID.

Peeps like to pretend it's not as it disturbs their own idea of research which is to spend half an hour with their feet up on the coffee table watching the BBC 🤣 

 

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Has Fauci, the main man directing the western covid response, masks, lockdowns, PCR testing, vaccinations etc been lying? If you've been reading the thread and watching the videos of Fauci's U turns you'll know he has, masks don't work - masks do work, PCR over 35 cycles doesn't work - lets use PCR at 45 cycles, similar stuff for natural herd immunity vs vaccine, lockdowns etc.

Now he's decided to confess, apparently it's  all for your own good haha.

''Dr. Anthony Fauci has been slowly but deliberately moving the goal posts on when herd immunity is possible. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the U.S. is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.''

New York Times  @nytimes  22h

Covid-19: How Much Herd Immunity is Enough? - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

''Did Fauci Just Admit He Lied About Herd Immunity To Trick Americans Into Vaccine?''

Did Fauci Just Admit He Lied About Herd Immunity To Trick Americans Into Vaccine? | ZeroHedge

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Meanwhile, new charts and the only charts that actually matter DEATHS given that the Govt insist on using a test that even the WHO acknowledges gives an unacceptable level of false positives (PCR) 

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Latest weekly excess deaths for London dropping below expected.

And this one is interesting, for a long time now the Govt keen to produce charts starting with the covid April spike. Being a novel virus they usually hit hard at first then wane as weaker variants (20,000) and mutations (3500) spread through the population.

But covid is not the first new flu like virus, what happens when you shift the time line so that the spikes line up and so compare the degree of seriousness.

Death spikes. 1998/1999, 1999/2000,  2019-2020.

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Dr Clare Craig  @ClareCraigPath

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"In spring excess deaths exceeded COVID deaths because interventions kill. Now COVID deaths exceed excess deaths because we are not diagnosing the disease correctly anymore."

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Meanwhile PHE jigs the data ...

"Thousands of deaths that were not caused by COVID in spring but were in excess of normal have been reclassified in the PHE fingertips data as COVID deaths. Here's the data for women from their first report in July:"

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"And now they've all become COVID deaths."

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"I am not suspecting malice here. Only incompetence."

Dr Clare Craig  @ClareCraigPath

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Meanwhile, a reminder that the Aril 2020 Covid spike was very similar in numbers to the January 2000 Flu spike. Wonder why we didn't put everyone under house arrest and destroy the economy back then?

And a reminder of the Govt report from July indicating 200,000 premature deaths expected to result from a 2 month lockdown.

Direct and indirect impacts of COVID-19 on excess deaths and morbidity - 15 July 2020 (publishing.service.gov.uk)

 

 

 

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hahaha, someone from public office sent this to Susan Mitchie (Communist party member, behavioural scientist and member of SAGE advising the govt on covid response),

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Whatever could they mean ? 🤷‍♀️

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