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16 minutes ago, Caseynotes said:

London % excess deaths over 5 year average April week 15 vs Dec week 52

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Daily Mirror  @DailyMirror

''Sadiq Khan demands 'immediate' new lockdown rules including masks outdoors''

In spite of the blatant world wide conclusive evidence masks don't prevent transmission.

More and more sinister.

 

 

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22 hours ago, Caseynotes said:

Oh, but he doesn't mention that around 48% of excess deaths this year were non-covid and were actually a result of govt policy caused by continuous rolling lockdowns and restriction of access to the health service.

Oh,

12/01/21

''Today’s shocking excess death figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show that we have not one, but two pandemics in the UK right now.''

''One is the Covid pandemic ...''

''The other is the hidden pandemic caused by Covid policies ...''

''The death toll shows the figures split almost evenly: around half of the total excess deaths for 2020 occurred in the home and showed little variation from summer to winter.''

 

Excess deaths in Hospitals;

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Excess deaths at Home (denial of health care);

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Excess deaths scandal - why did you ignore our warnings? - Time For Recovery

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If you're still listening to the bbc (or Sky for that matter) for news there's probably no hope for you.

Yesterday the bbc was screaming about biggest daily deaths or something, utter garbage. They were referring to reported deaths but did they explain it had nothing to do with date of occurrence? 

Holidays, 5 day work week and other factors cause reporting lag, below is the list of those included in the 13/01/21 total stating when they actually died, one goes as far back as May 2020.

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Do your self a favour and download tweetdeck and follow 20 - 30 news organisations from around the world.

You will see very quickly that msm news are all almost identical as they all follow the globalist agenda.

Other news groups offer different angles on big news stories leaving you free to make up your own mind.

 

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hahaha, errr, WHAT?   ....  you mean as in what we should have been doing right from the very start?

- could not have made this horrendous 10 month run of total incompetence up, no one would have believed you.

 

Great Barrington Declaration @gbdeclaration

10h

Head of Immunisation for @PHE_uk -Dr Ramsey announced to the Science & Technology Committee that England may follow a focused protection strategy, where protection is given to the vulnerable and the disease is allowed to circulate among the young where its not causing much harm.

 

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As usual, interesting and informative. In response to the question "Who gains", would the response be China?  They have certainly cleaned up in the Oil markets (mostly). Their economy has thrived where all others have failed. Honk Kong has been effectively silenced. 

However, one must temper such rash conclusions with more sustained research. It is true the Dragon(China) has awoken and it's only foil; the Eagle (America) is eating itself, much to the  Dragons amusement.

The virus is also highly contagious,(as Corona viruses are) mutates like an X man and is randomly deadly to those who are aged, unfit, unwell or plain obese and very occasionally those who are not. But not in every case (my 92 year old grand mother in law, for example, who tested positive, had symptoms but miraculously got better). Go figure.

Respecting simple rules makes sense and I agree sustained Lockdown is bad for a nation's health (physical, mental, economic). Also agree our Government has proved themselves incompetent beyond measure, which begs the question of the competency of the electorate in general.  I remain moot on that point. However, if one were to re-examine the Spanish Flu of 1918-19 one can easily see the similarities. Including the second wave, which was worse than the first. Curiously enough we are experiencing a second wave which is worse than the first.  

On the subject of vaccines and their ultra rapid development.  No vaccine has ever been developed as fast. We now have 5. In less than a year. Surely this was not just because of the multi billion dollar grants, kudos and vast profits to be accrued? Again more research would be required to ascertain what exactly happened and is happening. 

Either way, from the pragmatic perspective there is plenty of opportunity and profits to be made in this scenario and at the least, one should take advantage of same said chance. Before the doodoo really hits the fan. Which I expect sometime around September, maybe before. Which will present more opportunities...

Stay well and good trading to you.

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29 minutes ago, 786Trader said:

However, if one were to re-examine the Spanish Flu of 1918-19 one can easily see the similarities. Including the second wave, which was worse than the first. Curiously enough we are experiencing a second wave which is worse than the first.  

I just made a quick chart from the ONS weekly total deaths 2020 spreadsheet and there is no stand out 'second wave', the one that's been promised since September with the UK variant with 70% increased transmission or following that the deadly South African variant or the latest new deadly South American variant.

I can see numbers have crept up in a natural seasonal progression to match early Jan's normal winter increase but certainly no spikes after April.

 

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Second waves are always worse in pandemics, if not lethal.

A virus needs to spread as much as possible to survive without being noticed so it needs to decrease its lethality to be able to infect more hosts.

A second wave is normally a mutation of the initial virus that has been resident in some weak individuals. That mutation is normally more effective in killing the host.

You can find a good example in the algorithm of the game Plague Inc. You can beat it almost every time if you decrease the lethality at the beginning and prepare mutations on subsequent waves.

The American virus (we prefer to give credit to the originators in Spain) did exactly that:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html

Stay safe people.

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oh, most people would consider lethal as being worse than non-lethal I would of thought.

So we are all sat in lockdown for something that's now actually no more dangerous than a common cold.

Meanwhile of course lockdown is lethal and is killing 100 a day, not to mention the destruction of everything else.

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Easy to see why the powers that be eg. PHE are now backtracking and talking about herd immunity and perhaps best if peeps just get on with life as covid doesn't really affect most people anyway (see interview several posts up).

 

 

 

 

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UK doing as per the US who are also finding increasing covid deaths with all cause deaths only slightly higher than before meaning covid must be a cure for heart disease, strokes, cancer etc.

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Ethical Skeptic  @EthicalSkeptic

15 Dec 2020

This time of year 8,050 die each day in the US. What the States are contending is that on any given day 40% of all death in the US now is Covid. Yet CDC excess death is up only 10% during this same time. We cured 30% of our past causes of death. This is getting ridiculous.

 

Meanwhile France keeps pushing the envelope which is probably a fore runner to the UK as Boris, drunk on power, starts looking ahead, these tactics have worked so well for covid they are the obvious solution to climate change.

 

Darren McCaffrey  @DarrenEuronews

1h

BREAK: France to extend 6pm to 6am curfew nationwide - PM announces Means you have to be inside unless you have an official reason for being outside along with a government document

 

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Johnson announced need for tougher restrictions couple of days ago, Marcon announced curfews yesterday, Merkel pushes for curfews today. It's almost as if they were working in concert to a plan.

Meanwhile NHS winter Sit Rep acute beds Nov - Jan.

within norms and no spike

You are being lied to systematically and on a massive scale.

 

oh, and of course while all this is going on ...

13h
 

NHS waiting list for routine ops hits record high with 4.46million people now in need of hospital treatment, 'calamitous' figures reveal. theguardian.pe.ca/news/world/rec…

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A reminder of the fake PCR tests data (huge false positives ratio) being used to drive lockdown policy.

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Saw someone repeat this deliberate bbc misinformation on the thread recently, so obvious it wasn't pop adjusted I couldn't be bothered to respond. The interesting thing here is that an actual MP is standing up and saying there is only so much s**t you can shovel down peoples throats on a daily basis.

 

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The evidence against lockdowns is piling up at an exponential now;

 

Robin Monotti @robinmonotti

15h

"Stringency of the measures settled to fight pandemia, including lockdown, did not appear to be linked with death rate."

https://t.co/5N06jgA0Bg

 

 

Robin Monotti @robinmonotti

1d

''Closing schools increases transmission of respiratory viral infection because children act as a break on the community transmission of the virus. We have known this since 1918:''

https://t.co/TPRYQ1LAAJ

 

 

Statistics Guy  @Stat_O_Guy

16h

''How effective has the Governments Lockdown Strategies been when we look at the trend direction of over 80s deaths. Simply, it has not worked, a higher share of deaths now are over 80s than they were in March 2020. The lockdowns have failed to protect them''.

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''Lockdown has zero benefit. We have spent £300bn, destroyed an economy, created mass unemployment, abandoned 9m schoolchildren & created a huge backlog of physical & mental health issues. For absolutely nothing''

Aldous Nous @bravenew_orwell

(not to mention killing as many as covid did, excess non-covid deaths due to denial of health care).

 

As msm starts howling at the moon ...

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(2 main contributing factors to covid mortality are actually lack of vitamin D and obesity).

 

 

Though to be fair msm are only trying to keep up with politicians ...

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Another 'coincidence', now that the expensive new vaccines have been bought and paid for the old, cheap prophylactic drugs proven affective against covid are now finally given approval for use.

 

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Ivor Cummins @FatEmperor

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Now that vaccines are available...hey presto they finally allow #Ivermectin Similarly in UK they are now finally advising Vitamin D. Forgive me for being massively cynical - and massively angry at all the lives lost via suppressing everything until now.

FLCCC Press Release - NIH Revises Treatment Guidelines for Ivermectin - Jan 15, 2021 (covid19criticalcare.com)

 

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Saw a snippet on Sky news complaining that the Lateral Flow test must be faulty because it wasn't picking up as many positives as the PCR.

Quite an unbelievable misinterpretation of the data on the number of false positives made by the PCR.

Not surprising really as the fake positive numbers generated by the PCR are the only thing driving project fear and lockdowns.

Meanwhile, in order to stem the flow of staff needing to self isolate following a PCR false positive the NHS are switching to ...  er, the lateral flow test.

 

 

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Dr Clare Craig  @ClareCraigPath

Deaths are not climbing commensurate with cases. Either COVID got less deadly (despite inc hospital admissions) or we have two measure a) a community positive rate off the charts with false positives b) a hospital rate (likely to inc some real COVID) which is at a steady state

 

 

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and news from Oz;

''Anyone without a vaccine could be BANNED from pubs, restaurants and even workplaces under radical new plan''

 

Got to admit it's looking more and more like this all the time 🔻

 

 

Aldous Nous @bravenew_orwell

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Lockdown is phase 1 of a sinister, corrupt, authoritarian resource grab for the West. Our society, economy & lives are being permanently reshaped without consent or political mandate. Democracy & truth are usurped. The virus is a Trojan horse. The real horror is yet to unfold.

 

 

Anti-vaxxers who refuse COVID-19 jab could be banned from pubs, restaurants or their workplace | Daily Mail Online

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Evelyn Rae @_evelynrae

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ITALY: 50,000 restaurants and businesses open despite strict lockdown laws in place. Police in the video tell patrons to leave, they all start singing ‘freedom’ and refuse. The people of Italy have acted in unison and have been heard. 

 

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The new govt attack on the Lateral Flow test as a replacement for the PCR that has a false positive rate of around 84% is being denounced as laughably unscientific. The govt clearly want the fake high numbers to bolster their project fear. 

Will post more soon.

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Reminder of the covid death rate by age.

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clearly if you are under 70 you have nothing to fear from this virus and don't need a vaccine (unless you have other medical conditions that put you at greater risk). Especially a new untested type of vaccine (RNA gene manipulated), never before been given to the public and being falsely touted as a 'traditional' vaccine.

As with any historic pandemic those not at risk should be out and about acquiring herd immunity that will eventually protect everyone, in the meantime protect the vulnerable. As was the advice from epidemiologists right from the very start of this never ending farce before Ferguson and his magical mystery modellers took control.

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hahaha,

Joe Biden  @JoeBiden

I know masks have become a partisan issue — but it’s a patriotic act. Experts say wearing a mask from now until April will save more than 50,000 lives.

 

In fact there is only one study done on public mask wearing and it clearly shows masks do not reduce transmission. (I posted this several weeks ago).

And don't forget all the 'experts' (WHO, Fauci, Vallance, Whitty et al) all said originally masks did not offer protection then changed their mind for political not scientific reasons.

Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers: A Randomized Controlled Trial: Annals of Internal Medicine: Vol 0, No 0 (acpjournals.org)

 

Meanwhile, masks causing retention of CO2 and decreased O2 carrying capacity - who could of guessed it? 🤷‍♀️

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3 hours ago, Caseynotes said:

The new govt attack on the Lateral Flow test as a replacement for the PCR that has a false positive rate of around 84% is being denounced as laughably unscientific. The govt clearly want the fake high numbers to bolster their project fear. 

Will post more soon.

Quite confusing, the govt have on going testing for the Lateral Flow Test and like everything else that's not new vaccine appears to be going very slowly.

The govt seems concerned at a high rate of false positives from the LFT but in head to head trials the LFT was giving far less +ves than the PCR.

There is already clear data on LFT with a stated false positive rate of 0.32 if memory serves but there is none on the PCR because each lab makes up it's own rules. That's why it is not unusual to have one side of a country or county boarder with high cases while the other is low, viruses don't respect boarders but testing labs do.  

 

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4 minutes ago, jlz said:

Do you reply to yourself? No wonder why you keep posting nonsense on this thread.

i stopped wasting time on your opinions a long time ago. whinge but still unable to refute any of the who, govt, ons, cdc, phe data posted here that trips up your blinkered bias but you still continue with it anyway.

anyway, over 29,000 views - around a hundred a day. 

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6 minutes ago, Caseynotes said:

i stopped wasting time on your opinions a long time ago. whinge but still unable to refute any of the who, govt, ons, cdc, phe data posted here that trips up your blinkered bias but you still continue with it anyway.

anyway, over 29,000 views - around a hundred a day. 

I just thought that after replying to yourself you would need a bit of help to get to a healthy state.

Replying to another human being , in this case me, will help.

You can carry on now, there are plenty of memes to copy from twitter.

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Just now, jlz said:

I just thought that after replying to yourself you would need a bit of help to get to a healthy state.

Replying to another human being , in this case me, will help.

You can carry on now, there are plenty of memes to copy from twitter.

what actually are you saying? drivelling nonsense is not adding anything, it's just making you look like a clown.

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