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  1. Listen trading is hard - 95% of people who try fail and would be best just buying and holding, but all those 95% lot, think that they are in the 5% bit! Whatever you think the markets are doing is most likely WRONG and its probably why you're losing, as you're trying to trade counter, what the market plans to do I believe that the markets move to mega mathematical principles, that are present in the universe and Influence the markets - If you study the markets like I have, you can't help but notice the respect the markets give to certain mathematical principles People might think that the SP500 just stopped dead on March 6th 2009 at a price level of 666.79 "out of the blue" - but it didn't, there were a few factors hinting to that price level as well as the date and to top it off, it stopped at EXACTLY (0.01% error of perfection) 57.7% from the 2007 high - 57.7% is a sacred geometrical ratio, go see my Time Cycles page for a reference chart of the key ratios of the square, cube etc (then go to the covid crash of 2020 and note that the SP500 fell EXACTLY (again a 0.01% error of perfection) - these are just 2 examples of massive coincidence! Look at these following charts - I select this market at complete random: Decent bear swing - placed a Fib retracement tool on it Then I converted the down swing/Fib ret tool into a GANN BOX - a Gann Box, HARMOCIALLY divides the range into 1/4's, 1/2's etc: So "IF" markets work to the highest order mathematics, we should see some workings in the prices that follow the box To get the following angles you could simply COPY the Gann Box across, but that would get too cluttered for this thread As you can see I've simply extended the 25% Gann Box angle - oh look some coincidence! Traders just watching the 38.2% ret line would be scratching their heads as to why it never reached! Then extend the 50% Gann Box angle Notice 1) Price jugged along it following the high reversal and 2) where the 25% & 50% CROSS = a market reversal (this is NOT coincidence believe me) Then I've added the Gann Box angles to the end of the box (again if you'd of copied the Gann Box across, you'd have the same angles) The things to note here are when the angles up and down cross the top and bottom extension lines of the gann box = some sort of market reaction Now you might just think that this is a one off fluke Here's the SP500 daily chart: Look at the 50% Gann Box extension trend line! and finally The FTSE100 50% Gann Bax extension trend line: THT
  2. I'm pretty certain IG and the others post a win even if its £0.01p The stats of the entire Industry is around 95% people who try to trade lose - 5% win and of those 5% I reckon 0.01% make serious money If 95% of people lose and this stat goes back over 100 years, then it means everyone is doing something wrong Everyone thinks its the providers fault - but the truth is people are simply out of sync with the markets and most likely always will be because the markets aren't doping what people think they are doing
  3. Anyone noting the 2023 cycle dates would have made a killing on the FTSE100 - all came in and altered the trend of the market for brilliant gains This next post is one that I make with a heavy heart - it concerns WAR - the below is something that I published elsewhere on Just remember absolutely EVERYTHING in our lives operates to and within cycles - as an example, the climate does so too, it moves through hot and cold cycles, the rage is currently for a "climate emergency" but in a few hundred years the planet will be going through another cold spell cycle WD Gann referred to 90 - what he meant was 90 degrees of a circle being 25%, he also meant that the 90 could be used in TIME, such as 90 hours/days/weeks/months/years etc Here's a real simple one - this year we've had USA banks going bust and needing to be rescued - go back 90 years to 1933 (bank runs caused the "bank holiday"), then keep on going back 90 years or so and you will keep on finding years with issues around banks - this isn't coincidences, go forward from 2023 90 years and you'll get the next issue with banks (2008 was a separate issue) Another way you could have used price levels as TIME was from the 2009 low - this does NOT work all the time, ONLY in specific circumstances, but it has been something I've been watching over the years: Take the Mar 2009 low PRICE and turn it into a Time Cycle of WEEKS - results on the chart! As a bonus I've also shown you some ratio analysis to, to show you how you could of nailed the high - Take the SWING of A to B, project it from A or C and multiply that swing by 2.828 and you get point D - this was within 1 point of perfection! If you scroll UP this thread, you will see a pic of a table of RATIOS - you can see the ratio of 2.828 or 282.8% clearly, its a ratio of the SQUARE Now, look again at that ratio, look what the INVERSE is of that ratio - its 35.4% Now go measure how much in % terms the SP500 FELL high to low during the covid crash of 2020 Notice also that the SP500 LOW in March 2009 FELL 57.7% from the 2007 high - look at which category 57.7% falls - Its in the CUBE category and is the INVERSE ratio of 1.732 which is the DIAGONAL of a CUBE and square root of 3 Also not the Oct 2022 bounce off the 50% level - the table shows you 50% is also a ratio of the SQUARE Mathematics cannot and does not lie - It's there right in front of us on price charts to see Anyway, onto the WAR cycles - they are VERY VERY close: Did you know there's cycles in WAR? - There's an 82-84 year war cycle (1607 English arrive in Jamestown USA! / King Wills war 1691 / 1775 USA war of Independence / 1861 USA civil war and 1939-45 WWII) the next date for its sequence is 2021-23. I've also got other war cycles which point to dates 2026-2028 for it starting or ending! (USA Involvement in the war) = volatile decade! We can sort of attached UK/USA support for Ukraine in the supply of weapons as the 21-23 date, BUT, I'm more focused on the 26-28 date as the USA has ALWAYS 100% since its entire history been involved with troops on the ground in the wars around its cycle This means something significant could happen to cause that, just watch this space - I'm praying it does not happen, because I have 2 young fit sons of fighting age THT
  4. Hi - Not been on here for a while If still relevant - try https://www.barchart.com/futures/commitment-of-traders Read the explanation of the coloured Indicators - the RED one is most Important as it shows when the "Insiders" are buying, this Indicator works INVERSLY to price, as the Insiders dump Inventor to the retail crowd, so when the RED line crosses ZERO = the insiders are net long and the time to go long is usually when the RED line goes back under ZERO - see charts for confirmation (Doesn't always work though)
  5. Here is a very recent on on the daily GBPUSD for a few hundred pips profit Ignore the other trend lines - they are very very Important though, notice how they work with price - these trend lines are NOT hand drawn, the market made them months ago, all I've done is extend some of them and copied the blue one from months ago and placed it to the low of where the Fib retracement starts - REMEMBER, the markets aren't doing what all the manuals and commentators are telling you (which is probably why you're not making trading work) The combination of a market generated trend line and the 50% level made for a no brainer trade, If you drop down to the 60 min chart you would see that 12600 was a high, so Ganns old adage of "old highs, become support" worked out well
  6. Yep - it happens in EVERY market in existence and is a core principle of the markets - all timeframes too
  7. Not been on here for a while As you can see by the DATE above that I told you about the Importance of the 50% level How many of you were ready for this? SP500 Bear market crash - details on the chart "Things" don't happen out of the blue - the markets are moving to strict mathematical ratios and GEOMETRY shapes As gann said "When time & price balance, the trend changes"
  8. If you look back up this thread to the Nov 2021 date - you will see a chart showing you the 1st part of this of this - I'm willing to bet NO-ONE listened or bothered to take the simple next step in this Apart from the timing being amazing, notice the GANN ANGLE is absolutely spot on to the date and the price For the SP500 different things happened, but if you took the SP500 2009 low PRICE and used it as a WEEKLY time cycle, then you'd of got pretty close to the 4th Jan 2022 High price and turning point The thing to remember is: If markets were random, then very little of what I've shown you would work, it would not line up I'm just showing you enough to show you things out there are patterned, ordered and not happening as your told by the media, news or influencers I've not a newsletter, course or software to flog you 99% of traders are lazy, they don't do the work themselves - you can lead a horse to water etc Next major TIME CYCLE as per the projections is Oct 2025 - notice that on the FTSE100 the prev TC's caused mayhem with wild swings (as expected and mentioned above BEFORE the TC dates!) THT
  9. Prepared this chart years agoooooooooo in 2016 - YET ANOTHER spot on forecast/prediction - published here well before the "events" We don't live in the world that 99.99% of people believe we live in REMEMBER - The USA stock markets are UP until 2034 when it all comes tumbling down
  10. Thanks - Some TC's work, some don't, the key is being aware of them in the first place Use TC's, Hurst cycles and Geometric work I show on the how to win thread and you'll gain a massive knowledge on the markets You only need the Hurst cycles -3 maybe 4 of them on the same market and you'll kill it - you don't need to know Gann's reading list and we don't need to know every move of the market - all you need to know is assumed market direction, wait for it to be confirmed and then exploit the move to your advantage Gann taught basic form reading skills in his courses, that are still applicable today - Right now the SP500 Index and FTSE100 Index are potentially forming one of his "forms" right now on daily charts The sp500 comp Index I use, suggests direction is bullish, the market is bearish but showing not strong bearish and its getting very close to a possible bullish reversal formation that appears at lots and lots of low points - from a trading perspective we just wait for confirmation and then take a position, if the possible bullish set-up is invalidated by price action then no trade is taken - simple! Also notice this is happening right at a 50% level too, which I've previously written about in the how to win thread If all you ever did was pick 10 highly liquid stocks to trade/Invest in and applied what you'll learn in the Hurst book to them, you would smash trading and Investing forever On Hurst - The forward projection of the envelopes was my "wow" moment. The centered MA's are a guide only, not always precise, but they are good, Hurst also published "average" lengths for various cycles from studying 1000 usa shares - these will exist forever and you need to remember that they are an average, which means variance either side of the average - i.e. The HSBC has a low to low cycle of X-Y days/weeks/months, with the average somewhere in the middle Good luck with your trading journey - you're on the right track THT
  11. If all you ever did was read Hurst's book - you will have the basis of predicting any liquid market you choose, knowing roughly when to buy and when to sell out of the big cycles is all you need to outperform - the vast majority of people will go hunting this Indicator, that method etc in vain, when all you need to do is work out static cycles and bingo the TC's on this page are Gann related and different to Hurst's - but I can tell you, all you need is Hurst's and you can turn the tables on any market you choose to I've made my thread's purposefully complicated as I knew from the start very very few people would see the light, So my thread's are not fully insightful on everything - however, you've hit the nail on the head with Hurst's cycles - build the envelopes if you can, it is amazing at how accurate they are I recently bought HSBC in 2020 in my SIPP and ISA and sold recently after a 100% price advance - Based SOLELY on the cycles applicable to HSBC based off Hurst's work from that book - for the past 12 years HSBC has oscillated in an up down sequence of 2 years up, 2 years down - all you have to do is join the ride for 50%+ moves in BOTH directions
  12. No probs, you too- Seems like you've been putting the work in, well done - not many people do this Don't go down the Astrology route would be my advice I think Larry P focuses a lot on harmonic shapes / patterns I wrote on this site a "How to Win" thread too - but cycles control everything, all you have to do is strip out the cycles of Influence on a market and you have its roadmap forever and like Jim Hurst looked at, some or most of those cycles could just be simple box standard multiple static cycles This is a simple composite cycle of the SP500 - as you can see (RED line) it bottomed and turned up in June 2022, people will say it failed as the SP500 (BLUE line) bounced then fell lower - This is perfectly allowable, the fact that a new price low has happened tells you something about the cycle in play and prepares you for the next few months, the cycle hasn't failed, it's just slightly out of sync with the cycle that is driving price downwards, The Comp cycle Index is made purely from static cycles present in the SP500 and is a pretty good guide to the sp500's direction All you have to do is make 4-6 Composite Indexes of stocks you trade and you can Invest for the long pulls and get out when downturns THT
  13. Hi - No probs, its the Initial's of an author who sells courses on cycles - I don't promote their full name as I don't get rewarded, nor do I want to direct people to buy courses they may not understand or benefit from, so I don't refer to current vendors of trading information in full etc - Anyone Interested in that area will put the work in to research and will undoubtedly stumble across their work, which is exactly what happened to me and how I found them. Jim Hurst did some valuable work on cycles and Walter Bressert
  14. Not sure this fits into either of my active post categories - If you do not have your mouth wide open in disbelief from the final chart then I would recommend seeking medical assistance for a check you are human lol! Remember - THE MARKETS ARE NOT DOING WHAT YOU THINK OR BEING TOLD BY MASS MEDIA Information only, not trading advice - no liability accepted by THT, trade or Invest at your own risk Please also refer to the last post I did in the Time Cycles thread for timing of the Feb 2020 and Jan 2022 corrections - I've left those timings off the chart to avoid cluttering Gann angles on the Dow Jones (DJIA) from 2009 LOW = balanced nicely in 2022 as can be seen (PINK 1 x 1)- also notice the 50% trading range levels sliced the plunges in half, this was on the 1 x 1.5 angle from the 2009 low The 1 x 1.5 angle is NOT in the trading books or manuals (even Gann NEVER mentioned it) Next we take a close up of the 2020 price action: Notice the little feathering of the 1 x 1 from the 2009 low and then whoosh, price rejected, then notice the 50% plunge range on the 1 x 1.5 angle from the 2009 low, then notice the green angle at the 2020 low This next chart shows you the 1 x 4 angle off the Feb 2018 LOW: In 2018 the formula for the Gann angle increased - today its 4 times larger than what it was calculated at in 2009 Super smart traders would of in Feb 2020 drawn onto their charts retracement levels, % falls and looked for any hitting any Gann Angles on their charts that matched in terms of price AND time levels - the 1 x 4 did just that, on the DJIA it was sat at 38.4% which is close enough to 38.2% Fib level - a trader could have placed a buy order on that level in confidence (Please note it is not always possible to buy or sell the exact highs/lows etc, but on occasions like this it was perfectly possible with multiple confirmations in place BEFORE price even got anywhere near) Now what about something new? Please note for years on here I've mentioned 50% points - the 50% amount is This next chart connects the 50% plunge points of the 2020 plunge and the crash of 2007-09 together - as you can see held the market in 2015, got the 2018 low ok'ish - remember 2018 there was a major TC due and also in Aug 2015 Now one simple button press - we use the exact same info in the chart above but we look at a weekly log chart of the market, and we get....................................... Right through the CENTRE of the 1987 crash, 2007-09 crash and the Feb 2020 plunge - Remember it HAS to be LOG scale and your charting software MUST not move the line when the scale alters (most charting packages will not work properly I'm afraid) What this MEANS, is that that green line runs right in the CENTRE (50%) of the growth spiral that the DJIA is working to - all you have to do is project the line forward on its exact trajectory and you will get other MAJOR 50% centre points of ALL future CRASHES and PLUNGES that have YET TO HAPPEN! Yes the market WILL for years, "get off course" as it can be seen in the past - but I can absolutely GUARANTEE you, the market WILL revert back upwards and back downwards to intersect this green line FOREVER as long as the DJIA trades So here's the MIONEY call - whenever in the future a "PLUNGE or major correction" happens, you can calculate IN ADVANCE the bottom zone of the correction, place a buy order and just HOLD it for YEARS, you'll have TIMED the market virtually EXACT and you'll of "bought the DIP" as its meant to be done Also when the market deviates much LOWER than the line you can buy in confidence of where the green line is heading and also you will be able to "crosshair" the chart and get a TIME DATE in the future How about that - Random markets, my backside! THT
  15. Any savvy trader following the logic of the post dated 9th Nov 2021 and applying a little common sense - Would have been able to call the 2022 TOP within a 1 week window! Here's the updated chart - also notice in the charts above I mentioned a Time Cycle due on 4th April 2022 (1.5 years BEFORE the date) - the markets did not fail WD Gann Said over 100 years ago "When TIME & PRICE BALANCE, the trend HAS to change" - You've just witnessed that 7 months ago! Knowledge of the Gann angle along with the Timing coming together at the same time allows you to beat the street Question is where is the fall going to stop? I'll show you the Gann Angle another time - but you should be asking yourselves "How and Why a price and time projection from 13 years ago has obviously stopped the market dead in its tracks, forcing it to reverse"? Probably just a lucky call eh THT
  16. Hi MongilG, Yes absolutely - Gann wrote a lot of books, but he didn't divulge everything, just little hints here and there, so to work out what he didn't say takes years to understand and more importantly test, as its pointless using unless it actually works and makes money ~ Markets BALANCE on the 45 degree angle, this means that when that happens you'll get a reverse in trend, as can be seen from 2009-2022 45 degree angle You'll never get a 90 degree angle as you're thinking, it would be very short lived But price does move 90 degrees but that needs a different application to be used rather than gann angles to see its effect The USA markets bounced from a key geometrical level - how long that lasts we'll see - For a long time i've been waiting for a sideways trading range to develop, this could be part of it from Sept 21 THT
  17. Over the past few years I've showed you a multitude of methods to win in the markets and help you to analyse them - Even if I do blow my own trumpet, I've yet to meet anyone who shows you what I do - there's a handful of traders out there that do know but they most likely sell you subscriptions or course etc - but there's also masses of traders out there that sell you stuff and they have not got a clue! I make no excuses in having a dig at them - If you can trade you have no reason to sell anything, unless you can't really trade, are greedy or have an ego that needs pampering I've already shown you snippets of Gann Angles: As with everything in trader land, they are vastly and wildly misused and 99% of software programs out there don't even calculate them correctly either! So the vast majority of would be traders start off with dodgy charting because their charting providers fail to invest properly in providing charting that actually works or is scaled properly! So its absolutely no surprise that people try things only for them dismiss as "rubbish" methods that don't work This problem gets further misused as traders then slap on a blanket 45 degree angle across a badly scaled chart - markets ONLY work to 45 degree angles if they are scaled CORRECTLY and as you'll see in the chart below the 45 degree Gann angle does not pick highs and lows - it wasn't designed for that use EVERY market out there has its own unique price formula to calculate angles and as such it needs to be scaled differently from market to market - as a trader its your job to work out what that number is if you want to use Gann angles properly The chart below is the Dow Jones Index Right at the 2020 plunge you could have calculated the angles shown on this chart - Notice how price respected the angles through its journey across the chart the thick PINK angle is the 45 degree line which is scaled using the key scaling number for the Dow Jones Index The other coloured angles are mathematical ratios of the 45 degree line If we focus in on the 45 PINK angle line - it didn't predict the top, but it did lead to further depressed prices after it was crossed and closed under - giving a clear heads up that things could be changing, as they have done so. Which I'm sure you will agree can assist in "reading" the market and its strength - so way back in MAY 2021, as price struggled to regain the GREY Gann angle, the first warning signs were signalled Don't fall into the trap of thinking that they can predict every top or bottom - at some point in time both time and price will balance out exactly PS - You know that your Gann angles are set up right once you start to see price gapping over key angles and bouncing off angles - the real key is knowing what number to scale price to with with PPS - Notice how much the 2020 "Plunge" fell - in % terms = 38.4%, this is very very close to the Fibonacci ratio of 38.2% (and perfectly within error toleration) - This is NOT by chance or "out of the blue" If you use the scaling formula from the Dow as it is NOW, it distorts the past - look what happens if we use it from the 2009 low - the pinkl 45 degree line is out of sync, with another gann angle hitting - this is because the scaling is correct, but the 45 degree scaling is too high - in this case 4 times too high So the Dow has scaled 4 times as much since 2009 to now - the chart below is basically 4the current scaling used in the top chart divided by 4 - which brings the 45 degree angle back to normal Just to confirm, back in 2009 you'd of used the correct scaling at the time, which would have produced the gann angle shown below Tell me this is a fluke and the markets don't respect mathematics Also note the as well as the projectons in previous posts in this thread - this is also another reason for the markets reversals of late Think of how can an angle that MEASURES TIME and PRICE equally scaled pin-point a turning point some 13 years later or if you placed these angles on your chart in 2009, some 13 years INADVANCE???????????? Its as if the markets already know where they are going years, decades in advance! THT
  18. I agree, although it WON'T become the worlds reserve currency or replacement for gold - UNLESS the people who own the FED allow it to happen, which will mean that they've done a deal to benefit from it somehow Imagine you holding the worlds reserve currency, backed by gold (to which there's not enough gold mined to cover your debt) there's no way you'll let a new rival currency take over, unless of course its YOU that's bringing the new currency to the table so you profit from it and don't lose out on the old currency etc THT
  19. Great Call Daily DJIA Chart: Showing Geometrical key levels of the retracement AND the MEAN's of the range from the 2020 LOW This next chart shows the previous info but with the addition of price projections from A - B from A 2 is the EXPANDING ratio of the SQUARE (so you take the diagonal of the square 1.4142 which is the square root of 2 and times it by itself) Notice how B was the mid point 50% level of C-D. C-D were the HARMONIC (SQUARE) ratios of the range projected upwards from 2020 Swing low #A Also #B was the 50% level of the entire move So the market KNEW in 2020 exactly what level it was heading to in 2021/2022!!!!!! - Just wish it had let us all know too lol Some good strong levels still awaiting price action THT
  20. Same wave-length as me - most people listen to the mouth pieces rather than figuring it all out for themselves and then they wonder why they can't win at trading, Investing etc
  21. Current market turmoil still ongoing - as I predicted YEARS ago Here's a Gann Special for you, that I posted a few months ago on my blog A lot of fun has been made of this 1st chart - basically because people can't work it out or fathom how to apply it You might already know this and have seen it before but if you haven't, then just have an open mind and think about it all for 5-10 mins This is a HAND-DRAWN chart WD Gann made back in 1948 ish of the Soybean market Lots of Gann Angles going on, lots of number timing sequencing counts but.............. he also plotted the movements of planets! BOTH MARS [M] and JUPITER [J] on the PRICE chart (I've indicated both of these trajectory lines) - Take 2 mins to look closely at the chart - What he did was plot the movement of both planets as PRICE Then notice what happened to PRICE when they BOTH came together (The technical term for this is to CONJOIN/CONJUNCTION) - This means that in a circle they were at the same place - this is NOT the same as the transit being 360 degrees, as in the SKY that could happen on a different date - so to get the next 360 conjunction of both those planets you'd calculate 360 degrees from the price HIGH on the chart - If PRICE is conforming to a cycle then let that dictate where (the point/anchor) you calculate from, NOT what a textbook/ephemeris tells you, as price not be syncing to what is happening in the sky Also notice that the planetary position of MARS acted as a trend line support for PRICE and that JUPITER acted as resistance OK so was this a spooky one off? Well the thing to do is to plot the next few times that Mars and Jupiter conjoin at 360 degrees from that position - I don't have long term data of the Soybean market unless I would have continued this forward in time for you, but........ Here's what they've both done in the SP500 since 2000 Coincidence or are we seeing planets influence price action in the markets? SP500 Index In the SP500 chart above all I did was place the cursor at the 2009 LOW and calculate forwards and backwards every time Mars and Jupiter reached the same place in the sky which is a 360 degree movement - 360 degrees in a circle and Gann said "Everything moves in a circle" I think we can see that this pairing have an influence on the markets and if you project this from the 1990's the 2000 HIGH and everything you see in this chart window land on the exact same dates Just take a step back and think - at the 2000 HIGH, if you'd of projected forward Mars and Jupiter conjunctions 360 degrees you would have had the March 2009 LOW identified 9 years in advance within a timing window of a week of the actual low Please note, this pairing ONLY highlight certain timings in certain conditions - as you can see at times it has been a VERY excellent timing and at other times, not so good - not to be used blindly or on its own! Gann mentioned "Wheels within Wheels" - Multiple cycles control the markets, each inter-linked into a precision timing rhythm with each other Also note that between 2000 high and the 2009 low there were 4 x 360 degrees = 1440 degrees of movement in total - remove the 0 and you have ganns square of 12 (12x12=144) - divide 1440 by 360 and you get 4, which is a SQUARE, divide by.........I'm sure you can start to see the GEOMETRY starting to appear Ganns Emblem was a Square and a Triangle inside a Circle Have I mentioned geometry in the markets before? Things in the market do not happen "out of the blue" - People will put this 2022 recent crash down to Inflation and the Ukraine war, YET I predicted it years ago, as I've evidenced in this very thread! THT
  22. I can see in both charts - TRIPLE BOTOOMS The probability is BULLISH not bearish - my expectation is for markets to bottom and rally significantly This viewpoint needs to be reviewed along the way obviously but we've GOT a major BULLISH set-up appear in the USA markets
  23. People need to be ready for 5% rates - The ONLY way to control Inflation in an Inflationary cycle is by raising int rates This fits in perfectly with the 21/22 year Interest rate cycle (which triggered in 2000) If traders, Investors and analysts looked further back in time - they would SEE the sequence markets work to and the economic factors within each sequence, it then allows you to be able to predict/forecast the cycle and along with that the expected economic factors related and prevalent within each of the cycles (There's only 2 types of cycle!)
  24. Here's key dates for 2023 - As it states on the chart that bundle of Time Cycles were present right at the highs in 1987 I'm NOT saying that 1987 is going to happen in 2023 - all I'm saying is "The EXACT same cycles that bunched and caused the 1987 crash all bunch and arrive in a 2 month period in 2023" So I would expect the period Feb-April 2023 to be a fairly volatile period As you can see these are linear progressions of Time Cycles from a starting point - not all these dates will have much of an effect on the market - but as I've proven, some of them DO As the great WD Gann said "When TIME is up the trend CHANGES"
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