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  1. Sobering read from a medic on the front line treating Covid patients.

    One of many who are day-in, day-out having to deal with the consequences of this conspiracy theory cra*p, i.e. the vast majority of posts on this thread:
     

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    After more than three decades as a physician, the Q maniacs have succeeded in driving me out of providing care to patients. I, like many of my colleagues, am moving into medically-adjacent work, where we can continue to apply our training and decades off knowledge without ever having to come in contact with sick people.

    I've been able to deal with the years of patients who attended Google Medical School, and the hours wasted explaining things such as why cinnamon cannot be used to treat diabetes, or that garlic and beetroot can't treat HIV. And Lord save me from essential oils.

    COVID and Q finally proved to be the one of amateur "experts" that was too much for me. The horrific deaths are beyond what you might imagine. They emerge almost unrecognizable to their families. Since June, I have never seen a horrible case of someone who was vaccinated. I have seen people struggling to breathe through lungs that have hardened to near uselessness, begging us in their ignorance to give them the vaccine now. We can tell, almost without fail, which ones will die when they come through the door of the ICU, but we do everything in our power to keep them alive - BIPAP, ECMO, ventilator - knowing we are stretching out the inevitable. We use paralytics with ECMO and ventilators, then ease them off to see if they can function. And as the drugs wane, the look of terror emerges, the tears. We try to calm them, to swallow our desire to scream at them: This is your fault! This didn't have to happen! Often, their spouse or their uncle or neighbor is nearby, dying along with them. And we work hard for those rare cases where we can pull them back from the edge.

    I could deal with all of that. What I can no longer handle is the screaming, not from the patients, but from the families. They are not screaming in anguish, or in recognition of how their foolishness has led them to this point. No, they are screaming at me. Because, you see, I am part of the global conspiracy to commit genocide. If only I would give 10,000 mg of Vitamin C - even though the body can only absorb a maximum of 100 mg a day, with the rest creating the world's most expensive **** - they would be saved. Or hydroxychloroquine. Or ivermectin. Those have never been studied, they assure me, and when I tell them they have been, they snap that I don't know what I'm talking about. I want, oh god I want, to tell them that if we are the ones responsible for killing their loved ones, then why the hell have they brought them to the hospital? Why throw them into our clutches? I know the answer: They know it is all lies. But their egos are so huge they cant bring themselves to admit it.

    My breaking point came three weeks ago. I dealt with a particularly horrible case. This was a husband and father, 38 years old. A wife, two daughters, one son. All of age to get vaccinated, none vaccinated. If you could have seen his face, and the ravages left by both COVID and the time he spent prone on his stomach. An enormous clot kept reforming in his leg, and we had been forced to amputate his foot in hopes of keeping him alive. When he was awake, the look of terror in his eyes, the crying, the pain. It was nothing new. But the begging, over and over, "Don't let me die." And "Give me the vaccine." All I could tell him is "We won't let you" - although I never said we might not have any choice in the matter. And I told him, repeatedly, it was too late for the vaccine.

    He begged me to bring in his family. A nurse called them, because they had never come to the hospital. They refused to wear masks, and so would not be admitted. The nurse told the wife that her husband was likely dying, and was begging to see them. All she cared about was masks. She would only come if she and her daughters didn't have to wear any.

    The nurse came to me and told me the wife wanted to speak to me. I got on the phone and she ordered me to cure him with ivermectin and vitamin C & D. I explained to her, those do not work, they have been extensively studied and the amount of ivermectin needed to treat even mild COVID would kill a human being. Once again, I was told I was ignorant. I asked her to come down to the hospital, to bring her children, to at least wait outside. Somehow, she agreed.

    The nurses were all busy, and I took over the role they usually perform, comforting the dying. I sat beside the man's bed. Through tears, he rasped out sounds I could vaguely understand as a question. I guessed at what he was asking, and assured him that yes, his family was coming. He was so frightened, and I could tell he knew death was unavoidable. I'm not religious, but I knew he was, and I talked about the comfort of **** as I held his hand. About a minute later, he coded. We tried to save him, but there was nothing to be done. He died.

    Twenty minutes later, I heard from a nurse that the family was here, that they had made a ruckus down in the lobby demanding to be let upstairs without masks, and had been thrown out of the hospital. I consulted with a few colleagues who agreed to cover me so that i could speak to them in the parking lot. I took the elevator down, and asked security to point out the family that refused to wear masks. Fortunately, they had not left.

    I stepped outside, went to the wife, and identified myself. I told her that I was sorry, that we had done everything we could, but her husband had passed a few minutes earlier. I did not manage to get the words of the sentence fully out of my mouth when I felt the fist strike my face and heard the screamed words "You murderer!" I fell backwards, tripped, and plopped onto the pavement, the back off my head striking asphalt. I vaguely heard the words being screamed about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and god knows what else. I heard "you could have saved him if you listened!" I tasted blood from the top of my lip. It took a moment to know it was seeping from my nose, which she had broken. My mask was getting wet, and thus useless. Security grabbed her. They were getting ready to call the police, but I knew if they did, I would become the next national target for the Q maniacs. I told them to just put her in her car. I wasn't going to press charges. I went back to the hospital.

    I started looking for a new job the next day. I will never treat a patient again.

    Thank God.

     

     

  2. 17 minutes ago, Caseynotes said:

    'BREAKING: The CDC is withdrawing its standing request to the FDA to grant emergency use authorization for Covid-19 PCR tests.'

    'After 20 months of lies, the CDC can no longer hide that it's use of Covid-19 PCR tests was fake “science” but true fear mongering.'

    Completely misleading and basically not true.

    First of all, this is not "breaking" news, as it was reported back in July....

    https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

    And several fact-checkers have investigated:

    "The post on Facebook was published at around the same time we saw a number of posts falsely claiming that an announcement made by the CDC meant that PCR tests were “fraudulent” and “not fit for purpose”.

    As we wrote at the time, the CDC announced that it was withdrawing the request for emergency authorisation of one type of PCR test. This, despite claims otherwise, does not amount to the CDC saying the tests don’t work generally, and again they were not revoking all PCR tests.

    At the time, a CDC spokesperson told Full Fact that the PCR test in question—the CDC Novel Coronavirus (2019 nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR—is “a highly accurate test” and the decision to discontinue the request for emergency use authorisation was not due to performance issues but because more PCR tests have become available from commercial manufacturers.

    These are “faster, have higher throughput [quicker processing] and are designed to be more efficient” and mean demand for the CDC’s PCR test has “declined significantly”.

    The Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) confirmed to Full Fact in July that the brand of PCR tests in question was not used in the UK."

    https://fullfact.org/health/fda-covid-tests/

     

     

  3. 3 hours ago, K_C said:

    Caseynotes, please stop posting misinformation and conspiracy videos. They have been debunked if you google these individuals and their outrageous claims. 

    It's a constant stream of stuff that's been debunked many times, but he just keeps going. I suggest everybody just ignores this thread for the sake of your sanity.

    It goes against what the entire scientific and medical community is saying day in, day out - especially those on the medical front line who must be tearing their hair out with the cr*p posted here.

  4. Bad news: ☹️

    U.K. Study Finds No Evidence Omicron Cases Are Less Severe Than Delta

    A previous Covid-19 recovery provides little shield against infection with the omicron variant, a research team from Imperial College London showed in a large study that underlines the importance of booster shots.

    Having had Covid probably only offers 19% protection against omicron, the study showed on Friday. That was roughly in line with two doses of vaccine, which the team estimated were as much as 20% effective against omicron. Adding a booster dose helped dramatically, blocking an estimated 55% to 80% of symptomatic cases.

    The Imperial College London team analyzed all the PCR test-confirmed Covid cases in England between Nov. 29 and Dec. 11, making it one of the most expansive examinations yet at omicron’s potential to evade the body’s defenses. The results were in line with the picture emerging of the variant’s capacity to elude protection from previous infection or inoculation and spread faster than previous iterations of the virus.

    There was no evidence of omicron cases being less severe than delta, based on the proportion of people testing positive who had symptoms or went to the hospital, the team said.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-17/omicron-gets-around-previous-covid-infection-u-k-study-warns

  5. 14 minutes ago, Caseynotes said:

    REMINDER of REALITY;

    That chart really shows how well the vaccines are working by preventing deaths!

    In other news, UK Government releases report on vaccine safety:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

    4. Conclusion
    At the time of this report, over 146,135 people across the UK have died within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus.

    Vaccination is the single most effective way to reduce deaths and severe illness from COVID-19. A national immunisation campaign has been underway since early December 2020.

    In clinical trials, the COVID-19 Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine, COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna have demonstrated very high levels of protection against symptomatic infection. Data is available on the impact of the vaccination campaign in reducing infections and illness in the UK.

    All vaccines and medicines have some side effects. These side effects need to be continuously balanced against the expected benefits in preventing illness.

    Following widespread use of these vaccines across the UK, the vast majority of suspected adverse reaction reports confirm the safety profile seen in clinical trials. Most reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as a ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue, nausea, fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these reactions are not associated with more serious illness and likely reflect an expected, normal immune response to the vaccines.

    The expected benefits of the vaccines in preventing COVID-19 and serious complications associated with COVID-19 far outweigh any currently known side effects. As with all vaccines and medicines, the safety of COVID-19 vaccines is continuously monitored and benefits and possible risks remain under review.

    We take every report of a suspected ADR seriously and encourage everyone to report through the Yellow Card scheme.

  6. 1 hour ago, Caseynotes said:

    The govt misinformation department is stoking the mass psychosis again.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g7-statement-on-the-omicron-variant

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    G7 health ministers today held their final meeting of the UK’s G7 Presidency, focusing particularly on the very worrying developments on Omicron.

    Deeply concerned by the rise in cases, ministers agreed that these developments should be seen as the biggest current threat to global public health. It is more important than ever to closely co-operate, and monitor as well as share data. This will be key to addressing the fast developing situation.

  7. 1 hour ago, Caseynotes said:

    You really have to ask yourself why. And why are the vaxxed so incredibly frightened of covid? What was the point of getting the shot in the first place?

    South Africa’s health minister said on Friday that the government believes that vaccines and high levels of prior Covid-19 infection are helping to keep disease milder in a wave driven by the Omicron variant.

    Anecdotal reports suggests that the Omicron variant driving the fourth wave, which saw the country report a record number of daily infections earlier this week, is causing less severe illness than previous variants in South Africa – but scientists say it is too early to draw firm conclusions, Reuters reports.

    “We believe that it might not necessarily just be that Omicron is less virulent, but … coverage of vaccination (and) … natural immunity of people who have already had contact with the virus is also adding to the protection,” health minister Joe Phaahla told a news conference. “That’s why we are seeing mild illness.”

    South Africa has given 44% of its adult population at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine, more than many African countries but well short of the government’s year-end target. But among the over-50s vaccination coverage levels are over 60%.

    Addressing the same news conference, Michelle Groome from the National Institute for Communicable Diseases said there had been an uptick in Covid-19 hospital admissions and deaths.

    “Starting to see a slight increase in deaths nationally, but once again this level is very much lower even than the baseline period we were seeing between the second and third waves,” Groome said.

    Phaahla said early indications were that infections might have peaked in the most populated Gauteng province, where cases initially surged. He added that in the coming week the health department would report back to the National Coronavirus Command Council on whether Covid-19 restrictions should be adjusted.

  8. This is what the NHS is facing day in, day out:

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    COVID-19: Coronavirus patients describe their battle with the virus - both jabbed and unvaccinated.

    Lisa King and David Colley describe their experiences with having COVID-19 from inside a hospital in Wolverhampton.

    https://news.sky.com/video/covid-19-coronavirus-patients-describe-their-battle-with-the-virus-both-jabbed-and-unvaccinated-12497687

     

     

  9. 3 minutes ago, Caseynotes said:

    oh dear, long covid looks not to be associated with actual real symptoms.

    oh please, I have numerous friends who have/are suffering from this....IT IS REAL!!!!!

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/long-term-effects-of-coronavirus-long-covid/

    Long-term effects of coronavirus (long COVID)
    For some people, coronavirus (COVID-19) can cause symptoms that last weeks or months after the infection has gone. This is sometimes called post-COVID-19 syndrome or "long COVID".

    About long COVID
    How long it takes to recover from COVID-19 is different for everybody.

    Many people feel better in a few days or weeks and most will make a full recovery within 12 weeks. But for some people, symptoms can last longer.

    The chances of having long-term symptoms does not seem to be linked to how ill you are when you first get COVID-19.

    People who had mild symptoms at first can still have long-term problems.

    Symptoms of long COVID
    There are lots of symptoms you can have after a COVID-19 infection.

    Common long COVID symptoms include:

    • extreme tiredness (fatigue)
    • shortness of breath
    • chest pain or tightness
    • problems with memory and concentration ("brain fog")
    • difficulty sleeping (insomnia)
    • heart palpitations
    • dizziness
    • pins and needles
    • joint pain
    • depression and anxiety
    • tinnitus, earaches
    • feeling sick, diarrhoea, stomach aches, loss of appetite
    • a high temperature, cough, headaches, sore throat, changes to sense of smell or taste
    • rashes
  10. Sensible to cut down on less important events, says Whitty

    Prof Chris Whitty is up in front of MPs right now, speaking at the Health Select Committee.

    Asked about Christmas plans first, he says everyone can see the Omicron variant is moving really fast and is highly transmissible.

    This time of year, people have things on that really matter to them, including family events - and Prof Whitty advises people again to choose what is most important to them.

    In practice it's "sensible" to cut down on work or other interactions, like social events, that might be "less important" to you.

    Prof Whitty says he doesn't want to tell people to "do this or that" but to prioritise.

    And the best route out of all this is boosters, he stresses, asking people to get them when they can.

  11. Only half of people in UK with Covid ever get tested, says scientific adviser, who predicts 'huge wave of infection'


    A UK government scientific adviser has said that only around half of people who have Covid ever get tested and predicted that Omicron would lead to “a huge wave of infection”.

    Prof Andrew Hayward, a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), told BBC Breakfast: “Only about half or maybe even fewer of people who do have Covid ever get tested.”

    He said the doubling rate of new variant Omicron would lead to an “extraordinary number of cases” and “a huge wave of infection”.

    He added:

    If you think about getting a year’s worth of rain over a month, then you’re going to get flooding and potentially severe flooding, no matter how much you’ve shored up your defences.

    And that’s the concern here - that that huge wave is going to cause lots of people to be off work having to isolate, which is going to cause disruption, and it’s going to spill over into people going into hospital.

    Now the rate at which it spills over is uncertain because we don’t know exactly how severe it is yet, but we’ve no particular reason to think that it’s less severe than previous strains.

    We know that Covid is always going to be less severe if you’ve been immunised but it may be that rather than the strain itself that’s making a lot of cases look less severe.

    He said that by Christmas or new year there should be more data about the severity of the new variant, but said that by then it would be too late to take action.

    Asked about current restrictions, he said:

    I think the scale of the potential problem that we’re looking at here does mean that we need to bite the bullet and we need to tell people that there’s two really important things here.

    One is to get boosted, the other if we want to slow it down now... Then what we need to do is reduce the number of contacts that we have, we need to avoid crowded spaces with lots of people in and unfortunately, yes, that does mean parties etc. And so that’s a difficult message.

  12. Covid: Businesses hit by new wave of sickness
     

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    With Covid cases at record levels and rising, employers are bracing for large numbers of workers to call in sick.

    The Strats Homes lettings agency is being harder-hit than most. Out of 12 staff, only three are still working.

    “We’re staying away from each other and we’re managing the best we can,” says finance manager Maria Stratis.

    Hospitals, schools, theatres, transport providers and football teams are also being affected as workers succumb to the new wave of Omicron infections.

    And with the UK Health Security Agency’s chief executive Jenny Harries warning of a “staggering” number of cases in coming days, it’s likely that many other businesses will follow.

     

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59674616

    My experience: hearing more and more friends/family getting Covid with so far quite mild symptoms (they are young and healthy).

    I really fear for the consequences of long covid though, many will be dealing with this for years...☹️

  13. News changing by the minute as borders close, and more restrictions announced. Sweden now tightening its borders:
     

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    Sweden will require visitors from other Nordic nations to have a vaccine pass to cross the border as it gradually tightens restrictions amid rising cases of the Omicron variant of the coronavirus, the government said on Thursday.

    "We see an increase in infections in Europe, but also in our neighbours," news agency TT quoted Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson as saying.

    "For visitors from any country except the Nordics, we have a requirement for a COVID pass. Today, the government is going to take the decision that there will be the same requirement also for the Nordic countries."

    The new regulation will come into force on December 21, TT said.

    Sweden has seen a sharp rise in new infections in recent days, if from a low level. It has reintroduced a limited number of measures and has said further steps would be needed if infections kept on climbing.

     

     

  14. 5 minutes ago, Provaton said:

    British tourists to be banned from France from Saturday:

    More detail:

    France will ban non-essential travel to and from Britain from the weekend to slow the spread of the Omicron Covid-19 variant that is causing record numbers of cases on the other side of the Channel, the government said Thursday.

    From midnight Saturday (2300 GMT Friday) there will be a “requirement to have an essential reason to travel to, or come from, the UK, both for the unvaccinated and vaccinated... People cannot travel for touristic or professional reasons,” the government said in a statement.

    “Faced with the extremely rapid spread of the Omicron variant in the UK, the government has chosen to reinstate the need for an essential reason for travel from and to the UK,” the statement said.

    It added that French citizens and EU nationals could still return to France from the UK.

    “We will put in place a system of controls drastically tighter than the one we have already,” government spokesman Gabriel Attal told BFMTV channel.

    Attal said the policy was aimed at “tightening the net” to slow down the arrival of Omicron cases in France and give time for the French vaccination booster campaign to make more ground.

    “Our strategy is to delay as much as we can the development of Omicron in our country and take advantage to push ahead with the booster drive,” he said.

    In addition, returning travellers will need a negative test less than 24 hours old, and a blanket quarantine would be enforced on return to France.

    “People (coming back) will have to register on an app and will have to self-isolate in a place of their choosing for seven days - controlled by the security forces - but this can be shortened to 48 hours if a negative test is carried out in France,” he said.

  15. UK: 78,610 people tested positive for Covid today - the highest daily total since the pandemic began.

    Hopefully many of these will recover quickly with mild symptoms however many will also suffer for many months -talking to a friend today, she got Covid 18 months ago, has had a terrible time since and is now just getting back to full strength ☹️

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  16. 15 minutes ago, Caseynotes said:

    haha, it burns about a billion a week. Same story every winter with new added scaremongering for the covid farce.

    Reminder, covid has the same Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) as the common Flu.

    Haha, yeah it's funny that our health system is underfunded and struggling...

    Typical flu IFR: 0.1%
    COVID estimates of IFR: 0.5 - 1%

    COVID-19 is 5 to 10 times more deadly than the flu.

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