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Hi Skyreach, Thanks for the comment Yep, most charting software does not do it right, this is purely down to the SCALING of computer screens and the software - there is a solution though The perfect way is to find out the scaling for the market you're looking at (they are ALL different) - If you take the SP500 as an example and I think I showed this on my "Are the markets random" thread, the High of Jan 2022 to Oct 2022 was a PERFECT 1 x 1 down angle in terms of Gann - the scaling formula is EXACTLY the same scaling for UP angles Gann angles aren't the be all and end all as they have there limitations but you can use them for certain things - What Gann did was right specific courses for huge amounts of money with confidentiality clauses that explained exactly what the markets were/are doing, those courses have remained hidden from the public, with only a tiny amount of evidence as to what was going on - BUT, Gann was talking about planets and planetary positions on charts in relation to prices and his Gann angles, were approximate planetary lines for the general public to use, not precise, but good enough as the angles are based on %'s of the circle See the following chart: DJIA from 2009 - People would have writen off the 1 x 1 angle after 2011, but look at it in 2022 perfect example of price and time balancing - this is a perfectly scaled chart and angles Notice: the 1 x 1.5 angle (never talked of of published on charting software) it was effective throughout and ran through the 50% level of the "covid" plunge EXACTLY This chart is the DJIA from 1982 to 2000: The 1 x 1 forecast and timed the big 2000 highs, notice the support it provided in 1987+ and notice that the 1.5 x 1 angle ran right though the 50% level of the 1987 crash - in just 2 charts we've seen the 1.5 angle split major crashes precisely and exactly to the 50% level So to come back to your comment about scaling etc and again I've shown this in "Are markets random" thread, but didn't highlight it - If you find a well defined market swing of a number of weeks or months as shown in the chart below - box the swing, split it proportionally into 25%'#s draw angles to intersect those 25%'s as shown = YOU WILL HAVE A PERFECTLY SCALED ANGLE FOR YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN AND CHARTING SOFTWARE As long as you don't change the scaling on the chart by adding or reducing more price bars etc it will be accurately scaled, you can then COPY the angles and move around the chart - On my charting software I look back over 6 months, if I changed that to say 9 months then the scaling would change and the angles created on the 6 month basis would not be to scale, so as long as i keep the look back to 6 months any angles created will be perfectly scaled etc My software also allows me to view the angle on different timescales without moving it I mentioned planets above Not shown on the chart is the Mars/Jupiter combo at the 2009 low - the SP500 stopped dead at 666.79 points - the Mars/Jupiter line was at a longitude of 307 degrees on a circle of 360, add 360 to 307 and you get the value of 667 = which was the value in points at which the SP500 "suddenly" stopped dead at and turned around! This chart proves the conjunction value of mars/jupiter: The first chart is Gann's 1948 Soybeans charts shwoing Mars and Jupiter conjunction at the HIGH Then this is Mars/Jupiter conjunctions in the SP500 from 200 high - not all timings are significant but some are Here's, the trendline as a line from the 2000 high - notice that in 2018 it caught the high around the conjunction date - the thing to consider here is like the 2009 low, PRICE was 2872, the 2018 conjunction was the 8th conjunction since the 2000 high - 8 x 360 = 2880 degrees from the 2000 high = 8 points from perfection As we can see when Mars/Jupiter time and price balanced, the market dropped - only a minor drop in the grand scheme of things, but it did exactly as Gann said it would, trend reversal So although Gann mentioned his gann angles, really was he was saying was "Planetary lines" - which is exactly why when we trade gann angles, they often don't work that well, because we're trading them with the wrong scaling, the wrong reasoning and something else is creating the lines and angle of them, that most people are oblivious to That being said, people can still trade the steeper Gann angles from either the box method of creating them or the proper scaled method of knowing the points per bar figure - markets above the steeper angles often keep on rising THT -
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Zscaler Inc., Elliott Wave Technical Analysis Zscaler Inc., (ZS:NASDAQ): Daily Chart, 25 September 23 ZS Stock Market Analysis: We have been monitoring this stock as we were mainly looking for continuation higher after what seemed to be an initial move to the upside followed by a corrective downward move. At this stage the main scenarios are two. Either we just made wave (i) of {c} and we are looking to resume higher or else we’ve had a short wave {c} and we could be continuing lower. ZS Elliott Wave Count: Wave (ii) of {c}. ZS Technical Indicators: 20EMA as support. ZS Trading Strategy: Looking for longs into wave (iii). TradingLounge Analyst: Alessio Barretta Source : Tradinglounge.com get trial here! Zscaler Inc., ZS: 4-hour Chart, 25 September 23 Zscaler Inc.,Elliott Wave Technical Analysis ZS Stock Market Analysis: Looking for a potential three wave move into wave (ii) to then have additional confirmation of upside resumption. We currently stand at the 50% retracement, with invalidation below wave (i). ZS Elliott Wave count: Wave (ii) of {c}. ZS Technical Indicators: Between averages. ZS Trading Strategy: Looking for longs after upside confirmation. -
WD Gann Said over 100 years ago "When TIME & PRICE BALANCE, the trend HAS to change" . Yes, there is a definite maths relationship, Via Gann or Elliot-waves. The pity is I cannot get Gann Angles on IG as they are not properly defined as per Gann, and do NOT REMAIN FIXED AT THOSE ANGLES WHEN YOU CHANGE TO ANY TIMEFRAME!!!!!!!! Even the Gann fan angles, used by all brokers, are a joke. These angles are not set arbitrarily as the system allows, and no means to measure angles!!!!
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Ok, I can see how to change a stop to a trailing stop on an open position.
My question is:
what happens to the previous stop? Does it disappear and leave me with no stop until the trailing stop is activated?
Example:
I have an open position on XSTOCK @ 10 per point. Current price of XSTOCK is 100. I set a normal stop of 95. So under normal circumstances my max loss should be 50 whne the stop gets triggered at 95.
Now, lets say XSTOCK rises to 120 and I now wish to change from a normal stop to a trailing stop.
According to the instructions by IG, the trailing stop on a long position must be above the current price. So I want a trailing stop of 3 with a step of 1. According to IG instructions, I would need to set this to a minimum of 124 in this instance (120+3+1) and the trailing stop would be activated once the level reaches 124.
That's fair enough. But what happens to the normal stop? Lets assume the trailing stop criteria is set (it will activate at 124 in this case) but XSTOCK never reaches this level to activate the trailing stop. Instead it gets to 123 and then tanks.
Prior to this, I would of had a normal stop of 95 to offer some protection. Is this now gone and XSTOCK can keep going down without executing a stop?
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