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Could be, we might get a break and kiss back on the lower line before larger drop.  I fancy price might go sideways with a smallish retrace (maybe back to your wedge line) and then begin a move down.  This could take a day or two to resolve (maybe sometime on Tuesday next at a guess).


The problem with the wedge is the length and degree of accuracy of the touches, especially on the bottom line.  I have an alternative that might work as well, a set of parallel tramlines (grey), which are working in conjunction with the ending Triangle (pink).  Just had a break of the lower tram and if we get a little run down further to complete a small wave 1 then a small wave 2 retrace could provide us with a kiss back on the Tramline.



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S&P joins the Bear party with a new lower low.  Similar set up to the FTSE100 and Dow tracing almost exactly the same as S&P.


Ending triangle showed the market top followed up by a larger triangle break and kiss back at 62%Fib in classic A-B-C retrace form and then rebounded back off the kiss strongly.  New lower low confirms the move for me.  Now looking to add to my Short positions on the next reasonable retrace rally.  In Dow terms this could run for 1000 points.


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no entries on FTSE, WallSt. S&P yet, just back to my desk , watching them fall, not trading , yet..........

...of course if I jump in theyll go back up so I'm watching red just now :(

update 21:06 and now theyve starting turning around - Amazon released decent numbers I think

... if we can get into a pattern of lower lows , lower highs , of which this could be the start........, C

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A fellow jaded Bear ?  I know that feeling.  I am reminded that I should be trading what I see and in retrospect this rally was much longer and stronger than I had thought it would be but given recent history on these markets and the CB drugs being handed out like candy we should not be surprised that Fib 76% and even 88% are more common than normal conditions.


One thing to watch out for is loosing faith and switching tack just as the market turns in our favour.  Having said that if we do not get a serious bear run now then new all time highs have to come into serious consideration.


For now I think a decent Bear to Fib 38% on the daily (circa 1000 points from the top on the Dow and same on others) is on the cards.  Japan has shown the way.  For today US opening will tell a tale.  I can foresee a short rally up to the fib 50% (also short term resistance - red line on chart) off yesterdays last high before a large plunge, especially as investors start to fear what might happen over the weekend and consolidate their positions (also a month end of course and bank holiday in the UK at least).


Here is my S&P hourly chart (thoughts anyone?):


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VIX has just spiked to 15.5 from 13.5 at the beginning of the week.  Lower lows on all markets except FTSE but that is well on the way and breaking my lower tramline.  I really think we can declare this a Bear move, for the medium (next week or so) term at least, after that we shall see.  Shorts are the only stock index trades worth he risk, sell the rallies.

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Ah ok, my view is this one will run a long time so I'm sticking in for the Fib 38% as an initial target area.  If this turns out to be a strong bear run going Long is a high risk strategy with poor risk return ratio.  Such a bear run moves very fast and very long, the last one (4 Nov 2015) only took 5 or 6 days to make the first run and dropped 900 points on the Dow. 

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Yep and we should see something similar this time too and then we should get some clarity on whether we will get a bigger drop or push on up.  Given the rally was stronger this time I expect a longer drop.  Daily Chart resistance level looks good around 17100.

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I guess the answer to that is Oh Yes!  FTSE and DAX have made fresh lower lows (the FTSE after being reluctant to do so on Friday).  Will be interesting to see what happens when the Us opens in 15 but for my money we can look forward to a red week!  Make the most of it is my view but tread carefully we could see some swift moves in both direction before sustained drops, sell the rallies.

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The US markets are opening in bearish fashion, a close below recent lows will be a welcome sign for Bears.  So far the US markets (DOW and S&P at least) have turned at a plausible big picture W2 (but more on that in the weeks to come).  For now we have seen a 1-2 move in classic 1-5 down and A-B-C up followed up by another 1-2 of wave 3 and now, if or when we see a lower low we can judge the Wave 3 bear to be on.  Cue a red week and a run down towards 17000.  If this is the beginning of a long bear run we should get a significant retrace from about this point but let's worry about that later and ride this bear...



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For anyone still active out there, and given the importance of the US markets I guess that should be most of you, I reckon we are in a EW1-2 retrace within the larger Wave 3.  This should complete around the Fib 50% (near the last little resistance level).  You might need to go all the way to the 5 mins chart to see the A-B-C, such is the nature of a strong wave 3 that it is hard to spot classic EW wave motions on the hourly charts.


Here is the S&P and Dow (expect something similar if a bit more damped down on the FTSE/DAX owing to these markets being closed).  On the S&P the 50% looks favourite right now.


Anyone got a different take?




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