Jump to content

Dax & Dow


Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, jonah88888 said:

Hi Casey, how do you determine S1 etc?

Hi @jonah88888, I use the 'classic' version also called 'standard' as can be found as default on the Pivot Points indicator that comes with most charting platforms. The reason being it is the one most commonalty used and so the levels are more likely to trigger a response.

I started using them because previously for intraday support and resistance levels I was using the fractal auto S/R marker but it was always delayed so looked for something leading and found the standard pivots were usually well matched by the later arriving auto S/R marker.

https://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:pivot_points

image.png.fce0e8dbe5203372151b3afc39f21b2d.png

image.png.df9ed4efbafc6694ca54ee174dc1153a.png

  • Like 1
Link to comment

Looking at the H1 Dow and solid support at 26493. Though the chart is looking like it's rolling over it's more a case of simply decreasing momentum due to a lack of news, good or bad, though that should be set to change with the G20 starting Friday.

Currently has worked it's way to be sitting on top of the pivot waiting for the markets to open. Whomever controls the pivot controls direction.

image.thumb.png.9228e1c7c472ef8e0a5f0c438738dbc9.png

Dax H1 just taking a rest already halfway to R1 (yesterday's high). European open in 10 minutes, the more influential London open at 8am.

image.thumb.png.9e6e1e5f736c143ef85f81d60d4f9072.png

Link to comment

Both Dax and |Dow took an early morning walk to find resistance and have both since returned to the pivot to wait on the open. G20 meetings today and through the weekend but no real news release times, may just have to rely on tweets 🙂

Probably not a good week for holding positions open after US market close without some sort of safety net.

image.thumb.png.da752ee10490c1808fd1cbac531644a9.png

Link to comment
5 minutes ago, Foxy said:

@Caseynotes

Dow to hit 27000 by 22:00 today, Maybe!!! 

That would be fun 🙂 but the ATH? maybe a bit too speculative. Interestingly on top of the G20 uncertainty is today's Week end, Month end and Q2 end flows and I think Trump and Xi aren't meeting til tomorrow so we may end up seeing an exiting of longs before the close instead.

Link to comment
1 hour ago, Caseynotes said:

That would be fun 🙂 but the ATH? maybe a bit too speculative. Interestingly on top of the G20 uncertainty is today's Week end, Month end and Q2 end flows and I think Trump and Xi aren't meeting til tomorrow so we may end up seeing an exiting of longs before the close instead.

That we remain to see, I am long on the DAX and hope to close sometime after 21:00 all being well.

Link to comment
49 minutes ago, Caseynotes said:

May well work out fine if Dax can carry itself over this 12334 which has held it up repeatedly since Monday.

image.thumb.png.f25593b791e7ad92bc729eab52886fe8.png

It's been the DOW that's pulled us back every day this week, I just hope we get a bull run for the end of Month. Proreal has R3 at 2490 so I've set that as TP, if it happens it will be a great day.

  • Like 1
Link to comment

 

3 hours ago, Foxy said:

It's been the DOW that's pulled us back every day this week, I just hope we get a bull run for the end of Month. Proreal has R3 at 2490 so I've set that as TP, if it happens it will be a great day.

Dax and Dow went different ways after the 2:45 US PMI number was down then Dow got a lift at 3:00 when the consumer sentiment came in higher.

@Foxy, that's quite a big difference in the R3 number, I get your R3 figure if I switch the calc from standard to 'Woodies', might pay to check.

Dax lifted to run into R2 to the tick.

image.thumb.png.d4674651d918c4a7f32d06af84946ed2.png

Link to comment
On 28/06/2019 at 17:19, Caseynotes said:

@Foxy, that's quite a big difference in the R3 number, I get your R3 figure if I switch the calc from standard to 'Woodies', might pay to check.

@Caseynotes

I have noticed you often have different levels to the Pro-Real Charts but they work fine and are well respected so I have no problem with that. They say the pivot point formula I use is  (H+L+C) / 3 and the exact level of  R3 was 12487.3

I don't have to work them out, they are on my chart every day and work fine. In fact R2 was 12411 and was very well respected all morning so I guess it's not a case of right or wrong it's what you like to use.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
26 minutes ago, Foxy said:

@Caseynotes

I have noticed you often have different levels to the Pro-Real Charts but they work fine and are well respected so I have no problem with that. They say the pivot point formula I use is  (H+L+C) / 3 and the exact level of  R3 was 12487.3

I don't have to work them out, they are on my chart every day and work fine. In fact R2 was 12411 and was very well respected all morning so I guess it's not a case of right or wrong it's what you like to use.

That's interesting @Foxy, yes I'm using the standard version which is H+L+C/3 for the pivot point, though there can be slight variations in the calc of the R and S numbers. Mine auto calc each day as well but there is also the choice of 4 other versions of which Woodies is one. I've got two other pivot indicators and was just comparing the 3 of them and see that they are all the same and match your values except for the R3 and S3 on the one I've been using so I need to ditch this one and use one of the others, thanks.

Link to comment
3 hours ago, Caseynotes said:

Mine auto calc each day as well but there is also the choice of 4 other versions of which Woodies is one. I've got two other pivot indicators and was just comparing the 3 of them and see that they are all the same and match your values except for the R3 and S3 on the one I've been using so I need to ditch this one and use one of the others, thanks.

@Caseynotes

You are welcome I hope it helps, I love my pro-real charts & wouldn't change for the world. Previously I used MT4 charts and was very happy with them but never found a good pivot Indicator for them, some how they never seemed right.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Guest jonah88888
On 27/06/2019 at 12:57, Caseynotes said:

Hi @jonah88888, I use the 'classic' version also called 'standard' as can be found as default on the Pivot Points indicator that comes with most charting platforms. The reason being it is the one most commonalty used and so the levels are more likely to trigger a response.

I started using them because previously for intraday support and resistance levels I was using the fractal auto S/R marker but it was always delayed so looked for something leading and found the standard pivots were usually well matched by the later arriving auto S/R marker.

https://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:pivot_points

image.png.fce0e8dbe5203372151b3afc39f21b2d.png

image.png.df9ed4efbafc6694ca54ee174dc1153a.png

Thanks Casey. I am using the same, but, daily, I draw it out. I am using ProReal Time, and it has it's own resistance,and support which is slightly different from mine. Many thanks.

Link to comment

@jonah88888 & @Foxy,  the  reason I've been experimenting with so many different ones is to find one that ignores IG's Sunday 1 hour daily candle which badly distorts the calculation for Monday's pivot and S&Rs, they need to be calc'ed from Friday's HLC.

IG's own PP indy for MT4 and the online platform won't do it, it's been a few years since I used PRT and can't remember if it does or doesn't.

Link to comment
6 hours ago, Caseynotes said:

Both Dax and Dow have climbed above the pivot so looking to R1 R2 for targets on entries on the lower time frames though will be watching the 7am and 8am market opening times for any hint of reversal.

image.thumb.png.58c57013a7425f5897c2ab6c5c677f7c.png

To catch up with these two, in this mornings post we saw both were above the daily pivot so as stated above we were looking at Resistance targets above (R1 & R2), price rechecked the pivot before setting off, Dax pushed straight through R1, had a bit of difficulty at R2 and fell back after getting half way to R3.

Dow rechecked the pivot and set off to tag R1 but has gone no further.

US traders will be reluctant to get in too deep and it's generally a half day today with the US public holiday tomorrow so not expect too much this afternoon.

image.thumb.png.dc14cddd6ee9eb25bc70c79e81be4cee.png

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • image.png

  • Posts

    • Recently, the Australian S&P/ASX 200 index slightly fell by 0.01%, with this fluctuation mainly influenced by the latest release of the Consumer Price Index (CPI) data. This data not only demonstrates current inflationary pressures but also directly impacts the stock market in the short term. Senior analyst Thomas McGee delves into the impact of these economic indicators on the Australian stock market and discusses the economic logic behind this data and its potential effects on future monetary policy by the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA). Market Impact of Inflation Data The CPI data for the first quarter released today showed an annual growth rate of 3.6%, surpassing the market expectation of 3.4%. This immediate announcement led to a drop of about 0.5% in the S&P/ASX 200 index, and the market failed to recover these losses by the closing bell. Thomas McGee points out that this rapid response highlights the sensitivity of investors to inflation trends and their immediate impact on the stock market. In addition to the direct reaction of the stock market, the yield of Australian 2-year government bonds also significantly rose by 0.12%, breaking the 4.4% level for the first time since December last year. This change not only reflects the response of the bond market to the CPI data but may also indicate a cautious stance by the RBA regarding rate adjustments in the short term. Forward-looking Analysis of Monetary Policy Following the release of inflation data, the expectation on the market of the first rate cut of RBA has been postponed to after 2025. Thomas McGee emphasizes the importance of this change for investment strategies. He suggests that investors consider how changes in monetary policy will affect market dynamics when making long-term investment decisions, especially in a scenario where rates may remain elevated for an extended period. With inflation data showing higher than expected figures, the market predicts that the RBA may not cut rates in the short term, intensifying expectations of rate hikes. Thomas McGee mentions that this shift in expectations requires investors to reassess their investment portfolios, particularly in terms of fixed-income asset allocation. Furthermore, Thomas McGee notes that although the market may face pressure in the short term, this could also present entry opportunities for investors seeking higher yields. Companies that can maintain cash flow in a high-rate environment may become preferred investment targets. Addressing Challenges and Seizing Opportunities Despite the uncertainties and challenges brought by the current inflation data, Thomas McGee believes that investors can still find stable investment opportunities in this complex environment through thorough market analysis and understanding of future economic policy trends. He encourages investors to maintain flexible investment strategies while closely monitoring changes in economic indicators and central bank policies to effectively address potential market fluctuations and achieve value growth in future investments.
    • EURUSD Elliott Wave Analysis Trading Lounge Day Chart,     Euro/U.S.Dollar(EURUSD) Day Chart     EURUSD Elliott Wave Technical Analysis   FUNCTION: Trend                                 MODE: impulsive                       STRUCTURE:red wave 3                                 POSITION: blue wave 3                               DIRECTION NEXT HIGHER DEGREES:red wave 4                                 DETAILS: red wave 2 looking completed at 1.08854  .Now red wave 3 of 3 is in play . Wave Cancel invalid level: 1.08854           The EUR/USD Elliott Wave Analysis for the Day Chart identifies a trend with impulsive characteristics, reflecting significant and consistent movement in one direction within the Elliott Wave structure. This technical analysis helps traders understand market momentum and potential shifts.   ### Function The function is described as "Trend," indicating that the analysis is focused on the overall direction of the market, typically associated with impulsive waves that drive price action forward.   ### Mode The mode is categorized as "impulsive," pointing to robust, one-directional movement, often linked to waves that exhibit strong trends and rapid price shifts. This mode typically represents the waves driving the broader trend.   ### Structure The structure is "red wave 3," suggesting that the observed wave is the third wave in a larger Elliott Wave pattern. The third wave is generally the strongest among impulsive waves, indicating significant upward or downward momentum.   ### Position The position is "blue wave 3," indicating that the analysis focuses on a specific segment of the broader wave structure. This positioning aligns with a mid-phase impulsive wave within the larger cycle.   ### Direction for the Next Higher Degrees The expected direction for the next higher degrees is "red wave 4," which usually signifies a corrective phase following the completion of an impulsive wave. This direction suggests that once red wave 3 concludes, the market could enter a consolidation or retracement period before the next impulsive phase.   ### Details The details provide more granular information about the wave structure. Red wave 2 is considered complete at the 1.08854 level, indicating that the corrective phase has likely ended, paving the way for red wave 3, which is now in play. This suggests a continuation of the impulsive trend, signifying strong market movement. The "Wave Cancel invalid level" at 1.08854 serves as a critical threshold, suggesting that if this level is breached, the current Elliott Wave structure would be invalidated, leading to a new interpretation of the market dynamics.   Overall, the EUR/USD Elliott Wave Analysis for the Day Chart points to a strong trend with impulsive movement in red wave 3, indicating significant momentum and directional movement. The completion of red wave 2 at 1.08854 suggests that the corrective phase has ended, with red wave 3 now driving the trend forward.           EURUSD Elliott Wave Analysis Trading Lounge 4 Hour Chart,     Euro/U.S.Dollar(EURUSD) 4 Hour Chart     EURUSD Elliott Wave Technical Analysis   FUNCTION: Trend                                 MODE: impulsive                       STRUCTURE:black wave 3                                 POSITION: red wave 3                               DIRECTION NEXT HIGHER DEGREES:black wave 4                                 DETAILS: black wave 2 looking completed or near to end .Now looking for black wave 3 to play or is in play . Wave Cancel invalid level: 1.08854           The EUR/USD Elliott Wave Analysis for the 4-Hour Chart provides insights into the Euro versus the U.S. Dollar market using the Elliott Wave framework. This analysis identifies a trend scenario with impulsive characteristics, indicating the presence of strong directional movement within the observed wave structure.   ### Function The function is described as "Trend," suggesting that the analysis explores a segment within the broader directional trend. This typically involves a focus on the impulsive waves that drive the primary market movement.   ### Mode The mode is categorized as "impulsive," pointing towards a strong, one-directional movement. Impulsive modes are often associated with rapid price changes and suggest a clear trend pattern, as opposed to corrective phases that indicate consolidation or retracement.   ### Structure The structure identified is "black wave 3," indicating that the observed wave pattern represents the third wave within the larger Elliott Wave cycle. Black wave 3 is typically 2 / 2 the strongest and longest among impulsive waves, indicating that the current trend may be gaining momentum.   ### Position The position of the analysis is "red wave 3," denoting that the specific wave under consideration is part of the larger black wave 3. This positioning aligns with a mid-phase impulse within the broader wave structure.   ### Direction for the Next Higher Degrees The expected direction for the next higher degrees is "black wave 4," indicating that after the completion of the current impulsive wave, the structure will likely transition into a corrective phase. Black wave 4 typically signifies a temporary retracement within a broader impulsive pattern.   ### Details The details provide more specific information about the current wave structure. Black wave 2 is considered completed or near completion, suggesting that the impulsive phase (black wave 3) is about to commence or is already underway. This is a critical juncture in the Elliott Wave cycle, as it indicates a shift from a corrective phase to a renewed impulsive trend. The Wave Cancel invalid level is set at 1.08854, indicating a key threshold. If this level is breached, the current Elliott Wave structure would be invalidated, necessitating a new interpretation of the market pattern.   In summary, the EUR/USD Elliott Wave Analysis for the 4-Hour Chart focuses on an impulsive trend structure, with black wave 3 suggesting strong market momentum. The analysis anticipates the end of a corrective phase and the beginning of an impulsive wave, with a Wave Cancel invalid level providing a key point for maintaining the validity of the current Elliott Wave structure.   Technical Analyst : Malik Awais Source : Tradinglounge.com get trial here!      
×
×
  • Create New...
us