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41 minutes ago, Provaton said:

I could go on...but I presume you'll just dismiss all these people as more "paid off" stooges, or it's in the Guardian so must be lies...

Oh dear, where to start. As posted 3 days ago ...

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Not that they could get them but Africa had no need of the vaccines, they had Ivermectin instead remember.

Then of course just because the sample sequenced came from a region doesn't mean it started there, at some point it will be first detected but already in circulation. Once identified this new variant has already been found in many other countries including Belgium.

The WHO and the FDA and the CDC have already said the vaccines cannot lead to herd immunity, not even if each country is 300% dosed.

How much money does the Grauniad take from the Gates foundation?

 

The vaccines cannot prevent transmission but natural immunity can.

 

Andrew Bostom, MD, MS @andrewbostom

''Qatar data reveal natural covid-19 immunity confers 100% protection against fatal and critical re-infections, and 90% protection against reinfections causing "severe" disease [by WHO criteria, i.e., respiratory rate>30/minute or SpO2<90% on room air] ''

Severity of SARS-CoV-2 Reinfections as Compared with Primary Infections | NEJM

 

 

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Botswana says the new variant was discovered inside the bodies of fully jabbed people.

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Still haven't found a plausible reason for vax passports or mandates given that the vaxxed and unvaxxed are equally transmissible of the virus.

The only excuse for the vax at all is that it might lessen the degree of serious illness and death. For the Alpha variant that was just a1% absolute risk reduction over placebo but even that is questionable now. As reported, both the CDC and the ONS were caught stretching the use of historic data to try to show it was still the case with Delta now that Alpha is long gone.

I thought this latest variant was called Nu but apparently it's Omicron (missing out Xi for some reason). Did you notice how fast these variants are flashing past now? There's a reason for that.

If you look back at historic NHS data that labels the dominant strain of flu for each seasonal wave you will notice they often last 2 -3 years before being replaced by a new dominant strain, discounting the thousands of harmless offshoots that is the normal evolutionary speed of a highly mutable virus.

Whereas, after the initial Covid, Alpha lasted about 9 months while Delta is about 6 months and likely to be replaced soon as this new variant has twice the transmission rate.

This accelerating process is a result of evolutionary pressure imposed by the vaccines to speed up the production of new variants, faster and faster with each new booster and vax upgrade.

The drug companies say they will have an upgrade in just over 3 months, ... there will be another new dominant variant by then - it will never be fast enough.

Just one more step to go.

So far the variants have been more transmissible and less deadly. But each shot not only speeds up viral evolution it also suppresses further natural antibodies (already documented by PHE and various studies).

It's only a matter of time before one of these variants hits on being more transmissible AND more deadly matched to the vaccinated and their supressed natural immune system.

Vaccine ADE has been know about for some time, it's stopped every vaccine trial for highly mutable viruses in the past. At some point it will stop this one too.

 

 

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Latest interview with Dr David Martin.     

He has spent the last year and a half researching the years of connections that link the SARS virus, the drug companies, Fauci the NIH and the Wuhan lab.   

I have posted on his work before, real eye opening stuff, uses their own paper trail to tell the whole story.  

Listen to the opening where Peter Daszak  (Fauci/Wuhan lab go between) is quoted from a presentation he made in 2015.

It's all going as per the plan.  

Published November 24, 2021 (25 min).

 

Felony Crimes End Pharma Immunity: US Criminal Conspiracy Strikes Root of Covid Nightmare (rumble.com)

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, Provaton said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/26/rich-countries-could-have-prevented-new-covid-variant-say-experts

 

I could go on...but I presume you'll just dismiss all these people as more "paid off" stooges, or it's in the Guardian so must be lies...

The use of non-sterilising vaccines drives the evolution of viruses and creates new variants - this is ABC virology and an incontestable, inescapable scientific fact, known for decades.

What newspaper columnists and media talking heads say cannot change this one iota.


 

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haha, did you get your text from the NHS today?  

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''Just got this text from NHS. Interestingly, since “fully vaccinated” now means: “at least 14 days since 3rd jab” or “between at least 14 days & < 6 months of 2nd jab” the 8 out of 10 is probably about right. But totally misleading. Less than 1 out of 10 have had no vacc.''  

Prof Norman Fenton @profnfenton  37m

 

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''If I happened to miss the first 3 jabs and go straight to the 4th, am I good? Or do I need the first 3 that don't work...to be combined together, in order to make the 4th one work? This science stuff is confusing!''     Rule Boy @RuleBoy11

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The new variant seems to have a higher rate of transmission and a lower infection fatality rate than delta, this is the normal progression for a virus (spreads more easily but causes less harm). It has clearly been in circulation for some time but only now been sequenced. Already found in the UK, Europe and Australia.

Even highly mutable viruses like flu should only come up with new dominant strains every couple of years or so but with covid it’s more like 6 months.

This is a strong indication of vaccine ADE where the viral evolutionary process speeds up in response to a mass vaccination programme and is why the vaccinations should have been targeted to the vulnerable only.

Reminder that the covid infection fatality rate is similar to flu, yes people do die of flu but we never locked down, switched off the health service and forced an experimental drug on everyone. Sweden did none of these things and had no more deaths in 2020 than normal.

Vaccine ADE also causes the suppression and derangment of the natural immune system so in time people will become dependant on vaccine boosters and upgrades.

At some point the high rate of mutations will throw up a variant that is more deadly not less. All previous trials for mRNA vaccines were halted due to vaccine ADE. They knew this might happen.

The misleading info govt continues to put out is being highlighted more and more hence the panic over ‘conspiracy theories’ and anti-vaxxers. Be very sceptical of the official narrative and question the road the govt is leading you down because currently you are watching the destruction of western democracy and the Chinafication of the western world – yes really.

Govts admit that the vaccines don’t prevent covid transmission. So why do govts insist on vax passports? There’s absolutely no justifiable, rational reason. The vax passports are part of a bigger picture than just covid.

Many are obliged to get vaccinated just to stay in a job but start the critical thinking process anyway, it’s not too late.

 

But but but ...

How did we ever manage to eradicate smallpox then ?????

 

1. A sterilizing vaccine

2. No animal reservoirs

3. Focused quarantine for positive cases

4. A public health establishment worthy of trust

5. International cooperation

6. Centuries of work

Zero covid is a dangerous utopian fantasy.

(Jay Bhattacharya @DrJBhattacharya)

Eradication of Covid Is a Dangerous and Expensive Fantasy - WSJ

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1 hour ago, Caseynotes said:

The misleading info govt continues to put out is being highlighted more and more hence the panic over ‘conspiracy theories’ and anti-vaxxers. Be very sceptical of the official narrative and question the road the govt is leading you down because currently you are watching the destruction of western democracy and the Chinafication of the western world – yes really.

Wow, anonymous random person on the internet who has done his "own research" knows better than the medical and scientific community including the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Advisor.

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1 hour ago, Provaton said:

Wow, anonymous random person on the internet who has done his "own research" knows better than the medical and scientific community including the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Advisor.

Haha, they were correct initially and were actually 'following the science' before they were subverted and started 'following the politics' instead, see your Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Advisor in the video below.

This whole farce has been a never ending story of flip flops and moving goal posts not because of incompetence as most think but by following a covert plan, as per (nearly) every western country in succession. Thank God for Sweden, no lock downs, no shutting down of their health service, no masks, social distancing or vax mandates and came through with normal all-cause deaths for 2020.

 

 

More and more people are waking up every day. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Provaton said:

That "your research" has uncovered, can't wait to see it!

Where does ''your research'' come from, or are you simply not bright enough to understand what quote marks mean?

 

Meanwhile,

'Via British Medical Journal article. "We are mandating a vaccine where there is no scientific evidence that it has ever saved a single life?"

As the BMJ noted today, we will NEVER have that evidence because the vaccine makers are structuring the trials to avoid proving an all-cause mortality benefit since they know it is negative.''

We are mandating a vaccine where there is no scientific evidence that it has ever saved a single life? - by Steve Kirsch - Steve Kirsch's newsletter (substack.com)

 

The WHO makes a power grab here, Taking “pandemic” health decisions away from democratically elected governments & putting it into the hands of unelected globalists, in an “iron clad agreement”. Power should belong to the people. Always.  Bernie's Tweets @BernieSpofforth

 

Jennifer Arcuri @Jennifer_Arcuri

Truth bomb!! Alert all cognitively dissonant: The Paid for TV Talking heads are reading a script: signed to a contract, gagged by a network & are paid to deliver you PROPAGANDA. #NotAboutHealth They are NOT telling you the full truth. WAKE UP. Read the **** science.

 

Not surprising,

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Equity futures are bouncing around like 'a cork in a bath' this AM. In hindsight I suspect there was too much hysteria generated by gov'ts & the visual media over the Omicron variant. Opening calls look positive - FTSE +76 @ 7122, DAX +148 @ 15405 CAC +61 @ 6800 DJIA +220 @ 35119.  David Buik @truemagic68  1h.

 

Mild symptoms, Dr that raised Nu tells Marr. Is it a panic response Andrew asks? Yes.

 

 

 

Allyson Pollock @AllysonPollock

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Interesting preprint. Increased risk of infection with SARS-CoV-2 Beta, Gamma, and Delta variant compared to Alpha variant in vaccinated individuals but not in those with infection acquired immunity.

Increased risk of infection with SARS-CoV-2 Beta, Gamma, and Delta variant compared to Alpha variant in vaccinated individuals | medRxiv

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Ha ha, even MPs are tired of this utter nonsense.

'Tory MP Sir Desmond Swayne: "I've decided I'm exempt from wearing a mask due to my genetic predisposition to liberty. This is utter hysteria. "Every time I ask for the evidence I'm told it's about sending a message. Well I don't like the message."  talkRADIO  @talkRADIO

 

Inflammatory markers up post vaccination -  more than doubling the risk of an acute cardiac event within 5 years.

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https://t.co/VR1hUzXi5M

 

Post infection you are immune. Post vax, double vax, double vax and booster - you are not.

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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1464941605056565259/pu/vid/1280x720/Xtc31acbCXhZ3LZE.mp4?tag=12

 

 

Oh, and your masks are ready ...

 

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Omicron poses "very high" global risk, world must prepare -WHO

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By Stephanie Nebehay, 29th November 2021. Full article: investing.com

GENEVA (Reuters) -The Omicron coronavirus variant is likely to spread internationally, posing a "very high" global risk of infection surges that could have "severe consequences" some areas, the World Health Organisation (WHO) said on Monday.

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Scotland and Wales prepping for lockdown.

 

Jamie Jenkins @statsjamie 25m

''Wales and Scotland First Ministers write to the Prime Minister asking for financial support should they want to impose closures for businesses.''

 

 

'Covid is now directly comparable with seasonal flu.'

Greg Beard @greg_beard

''Yes - "27 August 2021: As of 15 July, Public Health England’s modelling group, with the MRC Biostats Unit, estimated that overall infection mortality rate is approximately 0.096%." 

Written questions and answers - Written questions, answers and statements - UK Parliament

 

Ross Dyer  @RossDyerTV

'The part that astounds me most is: -Getting the majority of the population to take a vaccine on the premise of ending the pandemic. -Then, after conceding it doesn’t stop transmission… -…succeeding using the sunk-cost-fallacy to get people to take another to “end the pandemic”.

 

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''Omicron may good news. If it spreads fast with mild symptoms it will give full immunity to vaccinated and unvaccinated. Each variant has halved in its case fatality: alpha 1.9%, beta 1.2% and delta 0.51%. So for omicron maybe 0.25%. Let’s be optimistic.''  Dr Anthony Hinton @TonyHinton2016  18h

 

 

''I’d be more inclined to believe COVID mandates were pure groupthink if they weren’t so consistently crafted to: A. Seed the idea of a pandemic, B. Enrich those perpetuating the pandemic, and C. Severely punish the noncompliant, all while masquerading as groupthink.''   Michael P Senger @MichaelPSenger  18h

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Moderna CEO warns COVID-19 shots less effective against Omicron , markets tumble.

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By Marius Zaharia and Renju Jose, 30th November 2021. investing.com

HONG KONG/SYDNEY (Reuters) - Drugmaker Moderna (NASDAQ:MRNA) set off fresh alarm bells in financial markets on Tuesday as the firm's chief warned that COVID-19 vaccines are unlikely to be as effective against the Omicron variant as they have been against the Delta version.

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Hong Kong's zero-COVID policy keeps movers busy, gives recruiters headaches.

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By Sara Cheng, 30th November 2021. investing.com

HONG KONG (Reuters) - Hong Kong's zero-COVID policy is driving foreign talent out of the financial hub and putting off newcomers even as some firms offer pay packages not seen since the lavish days before the collapse of Lehman Brothers.

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Reminder of the back story to these Covid vaccines:

The manufacturers never claimed the vaccines would stop or reduce transmission of covid. The vaccine does not stop you getting the disease you are being vaccinated against.

The WHO and the CDC had to change their definition of 'vaccine' to make it fit.

The claim was that they would reduce deaths (and therefore serious illness) but the makers own trial data shows 20,000 vaxxed - 20,000 placebo. 14 vaxxed deaths - 15 placebo deaths.

So a 1% reduced risk, not really even statically significant, but is a 95% relative reduction.

 

But but but covid deaths were reduced.

Which was actually due to the natural evolutionary phenomenon known long before the vaccines arrived of each new dominant strain being approx. twice as transmissible but half as deadly.

Case Fatality Rate:

Alpha  1.9%

Beta  1.2%

Delta  0.51%

Omicron ? 0.25% ?

Cases up, deaths down. Keep the fear factor up and credit the natural result of viral evolution of  reduced deaths on the vaccines.

 

Now the JCVI  say we need a jab every 3 months, why?

Because vaccine efficacy has been dropping from the start. From the poultry 95% relative (1% real) to 50%  then to 0% and is now NEGATIVE (more deaths than placebo).

But but but that's all the anti-vaxxers fault right?

No, so just keep shifting the goal posts and keep blaming them anyway.

less than 1 dose  =  unvaxxed.

less than 2 doses  =  unvaxxed.

less than 2 doses and 1 booster  =  unvaxxed.

less than 2 doses and 2 boosters  =  unvaxxed  ....

There will always be a healthy supply of the 'unvaxxed' to blame covid continuation on.

 

Reminder; the vaccines lower your natural antibody count (as noted by PHE), at some point you will become dependant on the jabs.

 

''Correlation between Vaccination and COVID-19 or All-cause mortality is non-existent!''

Ben M. @USMortality  14h

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''Making vaccines that generated spike proteins was the expedient way to reduce covid deaths in vulnerable groups quickly. But assuming they were the safest and most effective long term solution for the rest of the population was lazy and wrong.''   Hugh Osmond  @hughosmond

Pre-existing polymerase-specific T cells expand in abortive seronegative SARS-CoV-2 | Nature

 

'Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime.'

Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime (nature.com)

 

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Exactly This !!

Chris Sky, right then and now.

All adds up to enforced Chinafication.

 

 

Meanwhile, The very strict mask mandate in Germany is clearly ... err ... not working.

 

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And of course ... Triple vaxed doctor gets Covid, passes it to another triple vaxed doctor. Solution: more boosters and keep banning those unvaccinated super spreaders from society.

Two Israeli doctors infected with Omicron, hospital says | Reuters

 

And 1 sane politician.

 

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'Official Data Shows Face Masks “Made No Meaningful Difference” to Infection Rates'.  

'University of Oxford Professor Jim Naismith asserts that despite England dropping its mask mandate in July and Scotland keeping its rules in force, official data shows this “has made no meaningful difference” to infection rates.'

'Naismith goes on to argue that new face mask mandates imposed in England today are “unlikely to have much of an impact” in fighting off the spread of the Omicron variant.'

Oxford Professor: Official Data Shows Face Masks “Made No Meaningful Difference” to Infection Rates – Summit News

 

 

 

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html

The CDC advises wearing a mask.

I really don't understand the problem with wearing a mask and what your motivation is for sowing all this doubt. Just wear a mask, even if you don't think it's very effective, what possible harm can it do?

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Masks are a key measure to suppress transmission and save lives.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-masks

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38 minutes ago, Provaton said:

The CDC advises wearing a mask.

I really don't understand the problem with wearing a mask and what your motivation is for sowing all this doubt. Just wear a mask, even if you don't think it's very effective, what possible harm can it do?

I really don't care what the CDC recommends, I care what the actual science IS and their list of randomised controlled studies say that masks make no difference, common sense says cloth masks can make no difference.  

That's not ''sowing all this doubt'' it's highlighting the very real evidence that the official narrative and advice is just plain factually wrong, again.

So masks are clearly just a badge to say 'I am compliant', with any nonsensical order the govt might impose on me and therefore so MUST you be.

Nope.

 

 

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Stocks roar higher as traders park COVID and Fed jitters.

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By Tommy Wilkes,1st December 2021, source: investing.com

LONDON (Reuters) - Stock markets roared higher on Wednesday, reversing much of the previous session's losses, as investors used the dip in prices to bet the latest COVID-19 variant would not derail the economic recovery.

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EU brings forward Pfizer/BioNTech COVID shot for younger children to Dec 13.

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By Andreas Rinke and Ludwig Burger, 1st December 2021. source: investing.com

FRANKFURT (Reuters) -The European Union-wide rollout of Pfizer (NYSE:PFE) and BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine version for five- to 11-year-old children will begin Dec 13, one week earlier than previously planned, Germany's health ministry said on Wednesday.

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Where has all this vaccine suddenly come from?  

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You mean they are all making money out of it? (I'll post the video interview later, it's a stunner.)    

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Censorship out of control. Twitter censors the BBC for reporting the coroner's court.  

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Non-covid covid escapees from internment camp on the run.  

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Super fact checker Reuters find sportsmen collapsing on the pitch clutching their chests probably fainted or something.  

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